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BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 09:56 AM
The 2018 Ford truck looks suspiciously like a Chevy.

There must be a shortage of design engineers in the auto industry.

Hint: Making them look like one won't make them perform like one.

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Penguin
08-14-2017, 10:02 AM
Oh no! The Ford has round wheelwells and the Chevy has square ones. So there's your difference right there. ;-)

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Thumper
08-14-2017, 10:38 AM
The Chevy is dressier ... it wears a bowtie. ;)

DeputyDog
08-14-2017, 11:01 AM
Plus Ford kept that goofy shaped front windows.


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BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 11:17 AM
Plus Ford kept that goofy shaped front windows.


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the front door windows or the windshield? I guess I haven't noticed that before.

BKB

Thumper
08-14-2017, 11:17 AM
This'll make yer' pecker hard. ;)


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Chicken Dinner
08-14-2017, 11:21 AM
I know when I test drove the f-150 I didn't like the front side windows. I felt like they really limited visibility on the sides and rear when changing lanes, etc.

BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 11:24 AM
I love my Tundra but I have always thought the Tacomas looked meaner. There are times I have remorse for not buying one. But for road trips, I've never driven in a better vehicle. I got 18 mpg without and 14 pulling a big boat this trip up to Canada. And that's with 385 hp. Give Toyota another few years building big trucks and they'll have quite a package.

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Thumper
08-14-2017, 11:29 AM
Yep, I have no need for anything bigger than a Tacoma and LOVE the looks of their Sport package. This year, they have the Sport package for the Tundra also ... although I'm sure you'd prefer the Off-Road package which I have no need for these days.

Thumper
08-14-2017, 11:30 AM
I believe they're also putting a diesel in the Tundra this year, but personally, I've never been a fan.

BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 11:31 AM
IF (and I've been thinking about it) I get another truck, it'll be the Platinum package or none at all.

My suggestions on how they could improve the Tundra package is

1. offer a true 3/4 ton truck
2. beef up the suspension just a hair more on the 1/2 ton. Its already stiffer than the Ford 1/2 ton but not quite as much (IMO) as my old 2000 Z71, which was more like a 5/8ths ton. I'm not sure what Chevy is doing now.
3. Offer a true integration with phone apps like WAZE and others that lets you operate them via the dash panel. The gps that comes on Toyota trucks is more like a toy gps than a real one.
4. offer a 40 gal gas tank. The 20 gal tank on mine gives me less than 300 miles range when I'm towing. That's ridiculous when a one kidney having old fucker like me has a bladder that lasts longer than the gas in my truck.
BKB

Big Muddy
08-14-2017, 11:39 AM
Do any of the other auto mfrs. besides Ford offer the trailer backup assist pkg.???....I WILL have this on my next Ford truck !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyQlRR56t-o

BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 11:42 AM
Or you could just learn to back up a trailer.

Here's Trav backing up a trailer.

BkB
https://youtu.be/uQs-oEuDzSw

Thumper
08-14-2017, 12:00 PM
P-hole, I always figured you for a TRD Pro type guy, but I guess we're all getting older! ;)

Seriously, I have not stayed on top of the Tundra options because I have no need or interest in a full-sized truck. I'm just wondering, can you get a TRD Pro and add all the wanted extras of the Platinum option? Or does it even make sense to do so? I suppose I could peruse the brochures on Mr. Gore's internet and figure it all out ... but I'm too lazy ... plus I don't want to clutter my brain with info I don't really have a use for. ;)

Or heck, is the Pro suspension available with the Platinum option?

BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 12:05 PM
I like my nut coolers in my Platinum.

BKB

Big Muddy
08-14-2017, 12:06 PM
I can back up trailers, but that sure would make it easier on the neck and back strain.

Btw, call me collect, when you learn how to back up a long tongue trailer, with a pivoting front axle like this one.....I know only one living man who can back up those type trailers, without cussing, and he can park it on a dime. ;)

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BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 12:15 PM
I've seen those trailers around on farms but never hitched up to one. I can only imagine it'd be a bitch to back them up. I saw a older guy at a boat ramp once that had a reciever and hitch on the front of his pickup. it looked really wierd to see him unloading but he said it made it easy as pie. That's prolly what I'd do if I had to move one of those contraptions around.

I gotta ask, what's the advantage? Square turns? Tumped over trailers?
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DeputyDog
08-14-2017, 01:06 PM
the front door windows or the windshield? I guess I haven't noticed that before.

BKB

Front door windows. I don't like how the front is lower than the rest. Can anyone tell me what the benefit of that is?

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BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 01:13 PM
Wow. First time I've noticed that. I thought I saw a Ford parked on the side of the road the other day. Turns out it was just a dumpster that'd turned over in the wind.

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Bwana
08-14-2017, 01:13 PM
So you can see the mirror better?

Thumper
08-14-2017, 01:17 PM
While driving my truck, I had a pretty regular delivery where I had to back a 53' box (coupled to a sleeper tractor) into a narrow alley between two brick buildings. To add a bit of difficulty, it had to be quick because I needed every inch of the street to swing in there and I'd be completely blocking downtown traffic while doing it. The fun part? With my trailer doors opened and latched, I had approx. 6"-8" clearance on each side!

Another fun time is parallel parking one of those beasts! Admittedly, I only had to do it twice on the road, but it's a bit nerve wracking. Both times was during the wee hours of the morning as my clock was running out. I'd pull into a rest area to shut down and the place was packed full. Trucks would be parked along the road that goes through the rest area and I'd have to take the only open spot available ... the space between two trucks where another driver had been parked previously and pulled out. Drivers get a bit grumpy when you hit their $200,000 rig while backing into a tight spot ... then add the fact you end up shaking him out of bed while in a deep sleep! NOT a good scenario! Luckily, I never had to worry about getting my ass kicked.

I will say, one of the toughest things I ever had to back was one'a these! (admittedly, I was just playing with another driver's load in a large, open area and backed it between two traffic cones)


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I never did play with one of these puppies!


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In Australia, they run "road trains". (I seriously doubt they ever back 'em up!)


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BarryBobPosthole
08-14-2017, 01:20 PM
Wonder how many flats they have?

BKB

Thumper
08-14-2017, 01:30 PM
So you can see the mirror better?

That's my guess ...


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Trav
08-14-2017, 06:48 PM
Or you could just learn to back up a trailer.

Here's Trav backing up a trailer.

BkB
https://youtu.be/uQs-oEuDzSw

While that is an accurate representation of me backing up a trailer, fuck you. I was just sitting here minding my own business and you got to drag me into this.

Hombre
08-14-2017, 07:08 PM
^^ Remember the time you tried to back my box trailer in the drive way LOL ^^

Thumper
08-14-2017, 07:30 PM
Front door windows. I don't like how the front is lower than the rest.


It's all Bush's fault. ;)


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Trav
08-14-2017, 08:16 PM
^^ Remember the time you tried to back my box trailer in the drive way LOL ^^ I have Off you and Posthole can both fuck.

DeputyDog
08-14-2017, 10:29 PM
They've been that way for several years. It looks like since at least 2008.

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johnboy
08-15-2017, 12:10 AM
I really like my Ford SuperDuty truck. Way nicer to drive, in all respects, than the Chev 3500 I test drove. Course we're talking real trucks here, not some Toyota wannabe. :stirthepot