College football is just around the corner and

[quercus alba]

"SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said games won't be postponed and has recommended that the conference removes the 53-man roster minimum that was put in place last year. The message to schools is "You're expected to play as scheduled," Sankey said. That means your team needs to be healthy to compete, and if not, that game won't be rescheduled," he said. "And thus, to dispose of the game, the 'forfeit' word comes up at this point."


I like it, with a vaccine of sorts, better understanding of quarantine protocols and social distancing there should be a lot less confusion and better in-house control. You don't play by the rules then you don't get a do over. I wouldn't object if a vac card was required to get in the gate.........

[BarryBobPosthole]

And schools won’t have to do the bubble routine. I think most of Oklahoma’s covid positives came after kids went home for the weekend or holidays and came back and tested positive.

I can’t wait for CFB!

BKB

[quercus alba]

five-star quarterback Malachi Nelson, one of the top overall prospects in the 2023 class, gave a verbal pledge Oklahoma as part of a big recruiting weekend for Lincoln Riley's Sooners.

Nelson is ranked as the No. 5 overall prospect in his class by 247Sports and had a list of finalists that included Alabama, Florida State, LSU, Notre Dame, Ohio State and USC.


You'll like him Posty, he flashed the down Hook em at his announcement

[BarryBobPosthole]

And we have the ‘22 top QB coming next season. Not sure if Rattler will be here or not for ‘22. But you know, with the transfer portal being like it is, these commitments are pretty meaningless these days. I was talking to my son about this the other day, I think the recent rule changes about being able to make money off of their own image might tie star athletes closer to their fanbases. Obviosuly in a monetary way, but you know what they say talks and walks.
So it’d stand to reason it’d be a tougher decision to leave behind the golden goose to start over with a new one.
BKB

[Chicken Dinner]

Given it’s the SEC, those are probably the rules until it negatively impacts Bama…


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[quercus alba]

Bama and the SEC is kind of like Texas in the big 12. If Bama can’t play because of Covid then Arkansas will be forced to split their squad and send the 2nd team to Tuscaloosa. It's the best of both worlds, The Tide gets a forfeit and a win for a 2-0 week and the Hogs go 0-2 for the week

[Chicken Dinner]

At least Texas has gotten a bit of a comeuppance since their arrogance blew up in the last conference realignment.


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[BarryBobPosthole]

At least Texas has gotten a bit of a comeuppance since their arrogance blew up in the last conference realignment.


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And yet….without a starting qb named. And without much of ny news of what they’ve done on the defensive side of the ball. And yet, Sporting news has them ranked 13th going into the season. All because of Sarkisian. I think Iowa State is underrated at 9. They return a bevy of players and their QB is Purdy again, a Sr. They might just beat both Texas and OU this year for the BIG 12 championship.
Nah. They won’t.

The suprise team in the SEC this year will be Mizzou, IMO. They’ve been recruiting well and their coach is a good one. Arkansas is still an unknown quantity to me but I’ll be pulling for them! Muddy’s Bulldogs ought to shake things up a bit with some of the Pirate’s own recruits in there.

BKB

[BarryBobPosthole]

And speaking of CFB, Dabo Sweeney has come out against the 12 team expansion. Says there aren’t twelve teams good enough.

I don’t know why they skipped over 8. I kind of agree with him.

BKB

[Chicken Dinner]

Agree 100% there aren’t 12 teams good enough and teams 13-20 will just bitch even louder. I read a couple of articles just now on the OU and Tejas thing and there seems to be an awful lot of denial and we don’t comment on speculation and anonymous rumors for this not to be true.


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[BarryBobPosthole]

i just don’t see what’s in it for Oklahoma. I know they’re pissed off about early kick off times but hardly a serious issue. Texas probably has more regional matchups than we do in the SEC. Plus baylor is about to be the dominant Texas school in the Big 12, in fact they probably are as we speak. I think Texas wants to run.

BKB

[Chicken Dinner]

Agree that not much innit for OU other than not wanting to be left holding the bag if the BIg 12 implodes. SEC would probably want to add two teams to have to equally weighted divisions and Okie State would probably jump with Texas if given the chance.


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[quercus alba]

I personally feel like they're trying to get in on the ground floor. I would not be surprised to see the ACC, the PAC 10, the Big Ten and the SEC form four "Super Conferences" of 16 teams and break away from the NCAA in the near future

The NCAA is toast

[BarryBobPosthole]

The image of the SEC telling the NCAA to go piss up a rope was the very first thought I had when I heard the rumors.

Given what’s at stake, the NCAA has a dog in the fight but do they have any authority to stop it if they wanted to? Do they have to approve?

This superconference thing is just creating a new overlord. I’m not sure why any of them would be for it.

BKB

[quercus alba]

First thing that will happen is the new governing body will remove any concept of a cap which only widen the gap in recruiting. Nick Saban said his starting qb is already approaching a million dollars in endorsements and A$M has two players that were paid $10,000 for an interview.

You're gonna have to pony up some change to compete in the new CFB

[BarryBobPosthole]

Well, I may tell CFB to fuck off if they do this big conference realignment crap. I’ve been a razorback and Sooner fan since I was old enough to listen to games on the eadio. But this is too, too much.

I think I may be done. I just can’t abide by ESPN and the SEC running football.

BKB

[Chicken Dinner]

I hate this shit…

https://247sports.com/college/nc-state/LongFormArticle/Texas-Longhorns-Oklahoma-Sooners-leave-Big-12-join-SEC-conference-realignment-Texas-OU-football-Texas-AM-168151146/?fbclid=IwAR15zRfCtSa_nCbXSZKHjTnI0-5UyWO8xcUkVeMcdKb5cDHTvMQSlbKZgCQ


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[BarryBobPosthole]

12687

[quercus alba]

I don't know if there's any truth in it or not but I'm hearing some rumblings that the SEC is talking to Ohio St, Michigan, Clemson and Florida st about a mega conference of 20 teams.

I hope not, that would be disastrous to college football as a whole. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll kick us and Vanderbilt out

[Chicken Dinner]

While I enjoy watching OU play, I have to say I could go the rest of my life without watching any of those 20 teams play another football game.


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[quercus alba]

Newest SEC short

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntGICknpD3k&feature=youtu.be

[Chicken Dinner]

I wonder how OU fans are gonna feel about being Alabama’s bitch and not playing OSU every year?


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[Hombre]

I wonder how OU fans are gonna feel about being Alabama’s bitch and not playing OSU every year?


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:GH Shit Disturber:GH Shit Disturber:GH Shit Disturber

[BarryBobPosthole]

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[Chicken Dinner]

Serious question and not shit disturbing this time. [emoji48] I was just reading a couple of articles about likely conference destinations for other members of the Big 12 and the AAC seems to be a likely landing spot for many of the teams. But, the article did t really say why. I was just wondering why everyone seems to think the remaining teams would drop out of the Big 12 for a non-power 5 co detente vs. the Big 12 look to raid the AAC.


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[BarryBobPosthole]

I can’t pretend to understand the politics of CFB. I think there is value in the 8 schools to pickup three to four members and actually negotiate a pretty decent revenue deal. There are some pretty solid top 25 finishers among the eight and if they could attract a few more they’d have a good conference. Having lived through the ten school round robin scenario, my opinion is you need two divisions and have a real championship game instead of just playing the number two team twice. So I 12 are needed for them to be viable They could pick up SMU and Tulsa and stay relevant in basketball too. You have to think of the other sports. I hate to see moretexas schools in there but Houston might be one they’d recruit.

Its sad the the networks thesedays essentially buy themselves a conference and then promote the shit out of it. The rift this has created between the haves and have nots just became a chasm.

Question, doy’all think this is making the Domers nervous?

BKB

[quercus alba]

https://www.hogville.net/2021/07/26/ptns-ask-mike-segment-7-26-2021/

This is a video by Mike Irwin who has been covering the Razorbacks for 30+ years and he gives some insight into why he thinks this is happening. It answers some questions about not only the merger but also Covid and the 2021 football season

[Chicken Dinner]

He makes a lot of sense QA. A lot. Barry, I don’t know if “nervous” is the right word Barry. But, they’re probably looking at it pretty closely. They’re contractually obligated to join the ACC for football if they decide to give up being an independent. But, the Big 12 just found out what contracts are worth when this much money is involved.


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[quercus alba]

But, they’re probably looking at it pretty closely. They’re contractually obligated to join the ACC for football if they decide to give up being an independent.

I've never understood that myself, from a geographic and from a money standpoint the Big Ten is the only logical route for Notre Dame. I understand they like being able to call the shots but Clemson, Fla St, Miami and Va Tech compare very similarly to Ohio st, Mich, Purdue, Indiana and Mich st plus the Big 10 revenue is nearly twice what the ACC is.
Notre Dame is going to have a target on their back no matter where they play.

[BarryBobPosthole]

https://www.hogville.net/2021/07/26/ptns-ask-mike-segment-7-26-2021/

This is a video by Mike Irwin who has been covering the Razorbacks for 30+ years and he gives some insight into why he thinks this is happening. It answers some questions about not only the merger but also Covid and the 2021 football season

I think Mike has it pretty much spot on, except for the part about OU and Texas not being as competitive as Auburn and Alabama. Let’s settle that part in the games. His discussion on rivalries it creates was spot on, and I really can’t wait to seehow that pans out. I have family members that might blackball me from the family though.

He’s right, most hog fans these days don’t remember what it was like being the only non-Texas school inthe conference and how hated the Whorns are in Arkansas and why.
BKB


and on edit, thewre was part of what he said that sticks in my craw. He talked about how freeing it would be to Arkansas to not have to adhere to rules that the mid majors get input on. He used the example of Loouisianna Tech voting against a third assistant in baseball Arkansas wanted just because theycouldn’t afford it. That is the righteous bullshit that gets me. A ‘have’ complaining about having to dither with the ‘have nots’.
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[quercus alba]

Well, he is a SEC and Arkansas homer but not to the extent of Duke Vitale or Paul Finebaum.

[quercus alba]

I think Mike has it pretty much spot on, except for the part about OU and Texas not being as competitive as Auburn and Alabama. Let’s settle that part in the games. His discussion on rivalries it creates was spot on, and I really can’t wait to seehow that pans out. I have family members that might blackball me from the family though.
BKB B


I agree you on about the competitive part. If I remember right, Mizzou and A&M were just supposed to be so much cannon fodder when they came in too and we see how that's all worked out

[BarryBobPosthole]

If you think about it, the Hateful Eight remaining members of the Big IIX combined with the ACC would make one helluva good basketball league. And not all that bad in football.

I also think the ‘new’ SEC will need to alternate championship game sites, maybe with JerryWorld to avoid a recruiting advantage of having it in Atlanta every year. An every other year game in Dallas would really help recruiting in all the western wing of the new conference.

BKB

[BarryBobPosthole]

One thing for certain, old Bob ‘No Horns Down’ Bowlsby is mad as a wet hen. I suppose he’ll get glad in the same pants he got mad in.

BKB

[quercus alba]

I can see Kansas st and Iowa st ending up in the Big 10 and maybe even Kansas because of their basketball program. WVU will probably go to the ACC which is where they should have been all along. Baylor, TCU, Taco Tech and Okie St would be attractive to the PAC 10 if they can meet the academic standards.

Or maybe the MAC will swallow up the PAC 10 and the Big 12 remainders and become a power conference. We really don't know what will happen at this point

Just my two cents

[BarryBobPosthole]

The PAC 12 is interesting because the conference wholly owns the PAC12 network.Fox owns 49% of the B1G network. Different dynamics at work there in those situations. To make a pitch they’ll have to up their game to provide good coverage in those states. That moght mean giving up some equity. I look more for a mid major conference to make a major movevto become a player at the big table.

BKB

[quercus alba]

Arkansas will never leave the SEC but I wish they'd jump to what's left of the Big 12. We'll never be nothing more than a middle of the pack team in the SEC and that's on the good years. Big 12 would be a natural fit but far too much money to leave where we're at

[Chicken Dinner]

Everybody assumes the Mountaineers go to the ACC and from the on the field and court perspective it makes a lot of sense. But, it doesn’t add much in the way of eyeballs and viewers in big markets. $$ is what’s driving all of this.


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[quercus alba]

It's going to be difficult for the Big 12 to survive this but not impossible. Which of the "Group of 5" do you see as being the biggest beneficiary if the Big 12 does split?

Personally, I think the AAC (American Athletic Conference) without a doubt is the most attractive for Big 12 exiles. Houston, Cincinnati and Memphis have large potential viewing audiences

Or maybe, the Big 12 could lure some of them