New Wheels

[FooBang]

I was feeling a little unsettled. We just sold our place in NJ and moved to the SF Bay area.. Straight from the airport on the way to the inspection of the new house, I stopped at a dealership and picked up my new ride. Decided to treat myself this time. Twin turbo Ferrari engine.

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I like it when this car goes "Vroom."

I had them install rubber mats to keep deer from bleeding all over the back.

[airbud7]

Love it!....

[Penguin]

Damn, that is nice. 😊

If I ever moved to San Francisco I'd get a green Mustang fastback.... I wouldn't be able to stop myself lol.

Good luck with the move. Hope it goes smoothly.

Will

[jb]

Nice wheels, can't read the emblem on the car, is it also a Ferrari ? Have fun out there.
I get my new wheels in another month, it also has a twin turbo V6, 400HP, can't wait.
What made you move to SF ? It's not the garden spot it use to be. Do you work for the big IT company there ?

[Thumper]

So, the minute you arrive on the left coast, you instantly become a Yuppie? Next, you'll be changing your voter registration to "Democrat"? :hair

(nice hoopty!) ;)

[BarryBobPosthole]

I read where porches were getting ferrari engines. That’s gonna be my guess.

You’ll be making up excuses to run to the store with that thing parked in the garage! And so you can drive by plate glass windows to see how you look in it!

BKb

[quercus alba]

what make you think it'll be a change Thump?

[Hombre]

Maserati

[FooBang]

Maserati Levante. Took it up into the mountains and had a blast on the switchbacks. Kelly was white-knuckling it the whole way. :D

Just got a job at Google. 15 interviews. Getting harder as I get older to get a good gig, so I jumped on the offer when I got it and moved us all out here. Ageism is real, folks..

In any case, Thumpy, I was already issued my coastal liberal elitist ID badge in NJ. It transfers to Commiefornia directly.

JB, what car are you getting?

[Bwana]

Sweet ride!

[Thumper]

what make you think it'll be a change Thump?

Because I've gotten commode-huggin' drunk with him before. He DEFINITELY drinks like a Republican! ;)

'Course, he's in Frisco, so he may start drinking frou-frou drinks with little umbrellas in 'em now.

[Thumper]

Ha ha ha! It just came back to me. We actually closed the bar down and before the employees left, we had the bartender load us up with about elebenty-sebenteen pitchers of beer. They shut the lights off and went home while we continued to get shit-faced. (hotel bar)

[FooBang]

Ha ha ha! It just came back to me. We actually closed the bar down and before the employees left, we had the bartender load us up with about elebenty-sebenteen pitchers of beer. They shut the lights off and went home while we continued to get shit-faced. (hotel bar)

You might have gotten "sailor" confused with "Republican".. I'm only barely to the right of BBP. Maybe not. Still a Libertarian, but one that thinks healthcare should be a thing, particularly in the age of epidemics..

I was not a good friend that night, though, Thumper. If I had my wits about me, I'd have gotten you a room at the hotel.. There is definitely a thing as "too much" and we were about 50 yards beyond that. :D

[BarryBobPosthole]

Ha ha ha! It just came back to me. We actually closed the bar down and before the employees left, we had the bartender load us up with about elebenty-sebenteen pitchers of beer. They shut the lights off and went home while we continued to get shit-faced. (hotel bar)

The first time I met him was for dinner with him and Len and he showed up carrying his own jug of beer around with him. A growler.
BKB

[FooBang]

Still owe you beers, Posthole!

[Thumper]

The first time I met him was for dinner with him and Len and he showed up carrying his own jug of beer around with him. A growler. BKB

Maybe you're the one who polluted his mind with your political views. :stirthepot

:laughing

[Thumper]

The first time I met him was for dinner with him and Len and he showed up carrying his own jug of beer around with him. A growler. BKB

Reminds me of the time I was in D.C. and went drinking with Len, Chessie and Carnivore. They told me where to meet them and to just park in the parking garage across the street from the bar. Of course, we got plastered and somehow ended up in a Thai restaurant next door, where we continued drinking. I can't remember persactly, but I think attrition kicked in somewhere along the line and it finally got down to just Ticboy and me until closing time. Len was parked in the street and after he headed home, I walked across to the parking garage. The damn place was locked up tighter than a witches snatch!!! Big iron mesh style gates and no way to get in OR out! I walked around to the front of the multi-story building the garage was in and all doors were locked! WTF??!! Not a soul to be found anywhere! As I was standing there cussing those NOVA bozos under my breath, I spotted a janitor walking to an office at the rear of the lobby. I started pounding on the door and luckily he heard me. He came to the door, let let me in and we walked through the building and out the back door into the garage. Somehow, we finally figured out how to get the gate open and I got the "F" out'ta there. Of course, by that time, the Lenster was prolly already home in bed ... or still getting chewed out by his (now ex) wife! ;)

Note to anyone out there who may cross paths with that dufe ... don't trust him for a second! He's bad news! ;)

[Hombre]

Foo - We'll have to meet up sometime. I have quite a few friends at G and have been at FB/Meta for about 7 years now so I get to the bay quite a bit. Are you in their SF office or Mountain View?

[Thumper]

After all the warnings posted here, you still want to meet that dufe? You're a glutton for punishment! :slaphead

[FooBang]

Foo - We'll have to meet up sometime. I have quite a few friends at G and have been at FB/Meta for about 7 years now so I get to the bay quite a bit. Are you in their SF office or Mountain View?

I'm at the Sunnyvale office, but that doesn't mean much, since we're not even ALLOWED to go back to the office without a special reason. :D We moved to Saratoga, which is a pleasant little town.
Gimme a holler though if you're in the neighborhood. Don't be skeered like Thumpy though, I'm not nearly as bad as when I was younger. Mostly.

[BarryBobPosthole]

Seems like a pattern, Thump. Every time I met up with the NOVA crowd me and Len ended up drinkingdoubles in some dive bar until the wee hours.

BKB

[jb]

Foo, my twin turbo is not as exciting as yours, it's a Lincoln Aviator, just got notice that it'll be ready for pick-up around the first of March, ordered it Dec. 1.
My son works for Salesforce, who's headquarter are in SF, just a wild guess.
My fun car is a Jaguar XK Convert, that gives me more excitement than a old man can take. :burnout
https://i.imgur.com/R41KX5k.jpg

[Thumper]

I think it's pretty much established P-hole ... Tic is bad news. I tried feedin' him to a big ol' gator when he was down here once, but he was so fugly that gator wouldn't even have anything to do with him.

For "SOME" reason, this all makes me think of ol' Dubber. Now THAT guy could FORCE you to get schnockered and come out of the deal smellin' like a rose and still have the most innocent face you'd ever seen! He was pure evil I tell ya'! (I sure miss that trouble-makin' shithead) :(

[BarryBobPosthole]

Oh he was a horrible influence. The first I met Teedub was at the Sioux city Iowa airport. We met thereto drive up to go ice fishing with Bassdog and his brothers in Minnesota. His luggabe was a giant hockey bag stuffed full of everything you could imagine. We got in our rental and went immediately to the liquor store. It took us four hours to meander up to Lakefield and its only 90 miles. I’m almost afraid to say how much we consumed. Let’s just say it was another time, another day. But we dropped our stuff off at Bob’s brother’s house and headed to the VFW as soon as we got there. Closed that place down. when we walked into the house TeeDub tripped over that monstrosity of a bag and did a header into a coffee table. He wore a big shiner and a crooked nose the rest of that trip.
He was one helluva guy and I loved him like a brother. Just a gem.

The WhiskyJack.

BKB

[FooBang]

My fun car is a Jaguar XK Convert, that gives me more excitement than a old man can take. :burnout
https://i.imgur.com/R41KX5k.jpg

Now that's a sweet ride, JB!

[Hombre]

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[BarryBobPosthole]

Is that a ford Ranger Boh? Does it live up to the toughness of the originals? Those trucks were beasts. Beforethey messed them up anyway.
BKB

[Hombre]

Nope Diesel F250

[airbud7]

God I love you Fellers!....every time I click is like reading a book!

Let's keep this place alive as long as we can!

Love y'all

Do y'all want to hear the story about the weed I hauled back from Texas in 1984?

(tarp)

[Big Skyz]

Foo when you come through southern Utah (every Californian does) don't be a stranger. NICE CAR!

[FooBang]

Wouldn't miss it, Big Skyz!

[FooBang]

It's weird thinking about smuggling weed nowadays when there's delivery services that'll bring it to your house within an hour. Legally.

[FooBang]

Hombre, I was looking hard at the new Ford electric F-150 Lightning.. Whatd'ya think about it?
BTW, my wife has her heart set on the Tesla truck. I absolutely HATE it. Oh well, that's what we do. She earned it putting up with by BS, that's for sure..

[Thumper]

Electric cars. Oh nooooo, you already drank a big dose of that left coast Kool-Aid! ;)

[BarryBobPosthole]

Wow. Now Foo is a Californian.

Whoa. Heavy.

BKB

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[FooBang]

Electric cars. Oh nooooo, you already drank a big dose of that left coast Kool-Aid! ;)

..and bought a car that gets 11mpg? :D

[Hombre]

Hombre, I was looking hard at the new Ford electric F-150 Lightning.. Whatd'ya think about it?
BTW, my wife has her heart set on the Tesla truck. I absolutely HATE it. Oh well, that's what we do. She earned it putting up with by BS, that's for sure..

You know I haven't looked too much into the electric vehicles. Part of it is I want them to get better range, and part of it is me being hard headed. We plan on spending 50/50 time in Ok an Az in the next 2 years and I'm not sure I want to make a 14 hour trip in an electric. The wife is into looking at a new SUV so I'd love a review when your a few months in.

[FooBang]

Part of it is I want them to get better range, and part of it is me being hard headed.

This is exactly why i didn't get one. but now it's costing me $80 to fill up my car at the pump every couple days. They have charging stations at work and there are people who haven't paid for gas (or electricity) for years... so jelly.

[Thumper]

Lynn's brother was an Engineer with Toyota his whole career. Started fresh out of college and stayed with them until he retired. He could drive most any vehicle in Toyota's fleet and for many years he drove nothing but their hydrogen car (Mirai). He absolutely LOVED that car and it became pretty much his personal driver. Of course they had a charging station at work and he had a list of the VERY limited stations around town. I rode in it and it was kind'a cool and the only thing that came out of the exhaust was a bit of water ... 'bout like a cup per mile if I remember correctly. He had a button on the dash he could push to purge the water, or it would do it automatically. He really hated to turn that car in when he retired.

[Hombre]

This is exactly why i didn't get one. but now it's costing me $80 to fill up my car at the pump every couple days. They have charging stations at work and there are people who haven't paid for gas (or electricity) for years... so jelly.

Trust me if I was staying here I would have one tomorrow. Besides the charging stations at work they are always upfront in all locations.

[Chicken Dinner]

We’re looking at a new crossover for the Mrs. if/when the prices come back down a bit. It will be a hybrid at a minimum. We’re looking at the plug-in hybrids pretty seriously as well due to the federal tax credit. We typically buy new and drive vehicles for 10 years and I just don’t think there will be much of a market for straight gas engines in another decade.


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[jb]

Son bought a new Tesla last fall, it's their around town car, they have a Buick SUV for traveling.
That Tesla makes my 375hp Jaguar look like a 4 cylinder Escort off the line, even being an AWD vehicle.
I can finally catch up and pass him around 50mph.
The 300 mile range works well for what they us it for, his friend bought on before he did and drove the family from MI to FL. Tesla will provide you with a map showing all the charging stations, motels with charging stations and restaurants with them.
300 miles doing 70mp is 4 hours of driving, worked out well for food stops, potty breaks etc.
I had a chance to order a hybrid instead of my gas engine, but it was good for about 50 miles before the gas engine took over.
The battery was nothing more than an oversized car battery, but about 5k more.

[DeputyDog]

I’m pretty uninformed about the Tesla’s and other electric vehicles, how long does it take for a full charge?


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[jb]

With their "Super Charging Station" typically what you see at Motels, Shopping Centers, ect. A full charge in 15-25 minutes.

[DeputyDog]

Good to know. I was thinking if you had to stop for an hour or so every 300 miles it would be a really long trip.


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[FooBang]

Good to know. I was thinking if you had to stop for an hour or so every 300 miles it would be a really long trip.


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What I seen is sometimes you can expect 30 minutes, but like JB said, you plan it around rest/food stops.

[Penguin]

Price to be paid for those quick charges though, lowers your battery life. Dramatically. So they rate the lifespan with long/slow charges.

I was particularly impressed with the Lightning's range extending battery pack. You can go from 230 miles to 300 for only $20,000.... argh. Thing weighs 6300 pounds. For a half ton. That is not a typo. So you replace a half ton chassis with a 3/4 ton chassis and drive around with 1500 pounds in the bed all the time.

This is what happens when you try to shoe horn a new and very different energy source into an old technology that evolved to take advantage of the previous energy source. A debacle. IF you believe in global warming (and I do) then you have to use your head about things. This simply isn't the way to go. Cars and transport infrastructure MUST look different to get this to work. As it is we're making $100K virtue signaling devices and calling them green. They are not.

Transport in the US is 30% of greenhouse gas emissions. Half of that is private transport (privately owned passenger cars and pickups). If you are unbelievably optimistic, electric cars can eliminate maybe half of that in a perfect world. 7.5%..... IF you believe it can happen. Good luck.

You can believe in global warming and still believe electric cars are the way to go only in certain areas and certain applications.

Will

[DeputyDog]

There are a lot of other questions involved in the shift to electric transportation.

How much ecological damage is done by the mining of the rare earth elements required to make the batteries? Does it offset any benefits of the lower emissions?

What about disposal of the used up batteries?

There is a lot that needs done before a complete switch can be made.


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[Thumper]

Don't those evil power plants have to crank out nasty electricity to run all those charging stations? Or will they be hooked up to separate little windmills? :crazy

[Penguin]

I agree with both of you.

It's a predicament. And you know the difference between a problem and a predicament right? Short answer: A problem has a solution, a predicament does not. It can only be coped with.

I started a shit throwing fight the other day on linkedin when I made an honest statement. I said that IF you eliminate forced & child labor from supply chains, enforced EPA like environmental rules on the mining operations, and made recycling mandatory.... then I did not honestly think you could bring a full sized electric vehicle to market at twice the cost of a conventional one. I really do believe that.

But I also believe that global warming is happening. It's not a good place to be I can tell you that. :)

Will

[DeputyDog]

I agree that climate change is real. I’ve seen studies of the deep polar ice and the changes since the start of the industrial revolution is pretty clear that an industrialized society has made a major negative impact.


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[Penguin]

Yes, the you know exactly what it feels like don't you?

I kind of envy those people who can dismiss it as some kind of conspiracy. And those who believe that all we have to do is electrify and it will all be just fine. We won't even have to change the way we live! Yay Technology!

But if you acknowledge it is real? And you can't bring yourself to believe that the proposed 'cure' for this is anything other than utopian inspired lunacy?

My farm has been in the family since it was first settled in 1830. My wife asked me once what I thought it would look like in another 200 years. I told her I thought it would look a lot like it does now.... but with draft horses. Another honest response that could get me disowned by my colleagues. :p

Will

[Thumper]

A while back I started seriously trying to study up on the issue. I'm sure I've forgotten most of what I read over that period of time, but I remember zeroing in on the Ice Age. I remember the start of the Ice Age was caused by some cyclical period where the Earth's axis tilts just enough to cause the climate change bringing on the drop in temps. Then I read that after studying air bubbles trapped in ancient ice accumulated around the time of the END of the Ice Age, scientists discovered higher concentrations of CO2. I don't remember where the CO2 came from, but it was long before cars and power plants! Volcanos maybe? I also read that after studying ancient weather/temperature cycles, the earth is right now, in the period for the next ice age to come about. BUT .... with the current trend toward global warming .... AGAIN caused by higher CO2 levels, the warming will counter-balance the ice age cooling and a modern ice age probably will not happen.

So, after trying to educate myself on the subject, I ended up even MORE confused than I was before ... when I knew almost nothing about the subject! Now, if what I learned is true, isn't global warming actually a GOOD thing by preventing another Ice Age? It hurts my head to try thinking through all that, so I think I'll just continue living as I have been. I don't have enough time left to worry about it anyway. I am all for conservation and cutting down on litter (recycling) etc, but trying to CONTROL Mother Nature, I believe, is above all of our pay grades!

That said, I just attended the Tampa RV Show a couple weeks ago and saw displays of Winnebago and Thor's plans for all electric motor homes (I think the Thor had a range extender, can't remember). Oh boy ....

[Penguin]

That sounds pretty rational Jim.

I tell all of my students when the subject comes up (rarely) that I believe in global warming. But I don't hold it against anyone for believing differently. The science of global warming covers dozens of different disciplines. No one on this earth has the background in all of them to where they don't have to accept someone else's word for some critical part of the theory.

It inspires a bit of humility when you look at it in total.

Will

[jb]

10K years ago, where I sit now was over a mile under a layer of ice, ya, I may be old, but not that old.
I'm with the people that say "you can't fool Mother Nature"
Who really knows the history or earth, what civilizations came and went, or even the true length of time humans were around.
Those are things I'm looking forward to learning when it's time for me to leave the earth.

[BarryBobPosthole]

I think if. people are still dwelling on whether climate change is real or not thenthey’re being willfully ignorant. Its in the record. Recent history even. I live in a part of the country where we have cyclical drought. When the Dust Bowl happened, the climate change part was natural and predictable. What did farmers here do? They doubled their plantings because they thought the weather just had to break.
Its not whether its real, it how we adapt. We can cause tipping points to natural phenomenae likewhat’s happening with water in the west, and all the climate science in the world eon’t change it.
We’re developing land here faster than you can shake a stick at. Population is our problem, and what to do with it and all of its poo.
BKB

[LJ3]

That's some big moves!

Beer is good.