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BarryBobPosthole
03-15-2013, 12:45 PM
FoxNews, in their fair and balanced way, basically is calling out the State Department and administration for not going all in to get this fellow out of there. Well, they didn't send him there. and American citizen or not he should have known what he was doing there was going to tick off the Iranians. so what is our government's responsibility here? Not a damn thing, in my opinion. Noboday asked him to go there and nobody asked Dennis Rodman to go to North Korea. If ytou go someplace like that, then go at your own risk.

This is front page news, by the way, on FoxNew's website. Shouldn't they also put one of their 'bias alert' dealies with it? Wouldn't that be 'fair and balanced'?
BKB



The wife of an American Christian pastor imprisoned in Iran, in emotional testimony Friday on Capitol Hill, told lawmakers she's "disappointed" with the State Department's lackluster involvement in the case -- as her lawyers accused the government of going completely "AWOL" in the face of prisoner Saeed Abedini's plight.

Naghmeh Abedini, the pastor's wife, testified through tears as she described how her children could not understand what happened to their father. "They kept saying, 'Does daddy not love us anymore?' ... And I had to tell them that he was in prison because he loved Jesus."

Saeed Abedini was sentenced to eight years in prison in January. The description of the State Department's involvement in the case provided by the witnesses Friday stood in stark contrast to what administration officials have claimed in response to questions from the media.

While U.S. officials have claimed they're pressing for Abedini's release, the witnesses said a State Department desk officer last year called Naghmeh and told her "there is nothing the United States government can do for you."

Attorney Jordan Sekulow said the same officer called Naghmeh Abedini as she was boarding the plane for Washington on Thursday to tell her, "you've never asked us for help."

"As you can see," Sekulow said, "now they know this hearing is about to happen, and are trying to cover their tracks."

The State Department also declined to attend the hearing Friday despite being invited, a decision fellow attorney Jay Sekulow, Jordan's father, called "inexcusable."

Naghmeh Abedini, after describing in great detail how her husband converted to Christianity, came to America and eventually became a proud American citizen, closed her testimony with words of disappointment about the government's alleged inaction.

"I must say I'm disappointed with our government. I'm disappointed that our president and our State Department has not fully engaged in this case," she said. "I'm disappointed that this great country is not doing more to free my husband -- a U.S. citizen. I expect more from our government."

The hearing Friday was a rare opportunity for Abedini's case to get a public airing on Capitol Hill and could serve to pressure Tehran -- or pressure Washington to bring more attention to the case.

Naghmeh came to the U.S. in 1986. She met Saeed in 2002 and they married two years later. Both had converted from Islam to Christianity -- Saeed became a U.S. citizen in 2010.

The Iranian government does not recognize his American citizenship, though it had enabled him to travel freely between both countries until this past summer, when he was pulled off a bus and placed under house arrest, according to his supporters. Abedini has been held in Iran's brutal Evin prison since September of last year and was sentenced to eight years in prison in January -- accused of evangelizing and threatening national security.

His wife said he's been beaten and suffers internal bleeding. "Every day in that prison is a death sentence for him," she said.

Lawmakers and the witnesses were unrelenting in their criticism of the State Department.

The department was invited to the hearing last week by Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., co-chairman of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission. A Wolf aide said despite repeated attempts they didn't hear back from the department until Thursday, when the department said no one was available.

"The State Department is AWOL," Jay Sekulow claimed Friday.

The Obama administration has publicly called for Abedini's release. But Naghmeh Abedini recently told Fox News that she has not received a phone call from President Obama or the secretary of state.

The hearing comes after the U.N. Human Rights Council held a meeting in Geneva on Monday that focused on Iran's human rights record. At that meeting, the European Union delegation specifically called for the release of "prisoners of conscience," including Abedini and others.

The U.S. representative, though, did not mention Abedini by name. Ambassador Eileen Chamberlain Donahoe instead broadly criticized "the Iranian government's ceaseless campaign of abuse" against those who dissent.

She also called the findings of a new report by the Special Rapporteur "serious" and "indicative of an ongoing and intensifying crackdown on human rights defenders and civil society actors."

That report included a section on the Abedini case.

The State Department, when asked why Donahoe did not herself raise the Abedini case, noted that the U.S. delegation focused on that report, "which details the Iranian government's ceaseless campaign of abuse against all who criticize or oppose it."

A State Department official also said that in Geneva, "we made pointed reference to a number of our concerns regarding Iran, along with Syria, China, Cuba and North Korea."

The official said religious freedom is a "top priority" of the administration, and the "White House and State Department have repeatedly and publicly called for Mr. Abedini's release."

"We continue to raise Mr. Abedini's case with a variety of international actors to help raise awareness of his case and secure his release," the official said.

The Obama administration has addressed his case in the past, when questioned by the press.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said on March 7 that the administration is "deeply concerned that the Iranians have not yet granted access to him by our Swiss protecting power" and continues to believe "he should be released immediately."

She has previously voiced concern about the fairness and transparency of his trial and claimed the administration is "actively engaged" in the case.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney has said the same, and earlier this year he condemned "Iran's continued violation of the universal right of freedom or religion."

The U.N. report said Abedini spent four weeks in solitary confinement and was subjected to tactics like sleep deprivation, after he was arrested in September. The report said he was then transferred to another ward where he was reportedly beaten and initially denied access to medical treatment.

His wife and their two children are in Idaho, though his wife traveled to Washington on Friday for the hearing.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/15/lawyer-representing-family-jailed-pastor-says-state-department-awol/#ixzz2NcyTyeng

HideHunter
03-15-2013, 01:06 PM
"Well, they didn't send him there. and American citizen or not he should have known what he was doing there was going to tick off the Iranians. so what is our government's responsibility here? Not a damn thing, in my opinion. Noboday asked him to go there and nobody asked Dennis Rodman to go to North Korea. If you go someplace like that, then go at your own risk."

Hear Hear! .. I'm sorry, but everytime I hear something like this I think of that old boy how thought he was a great buddy with the brown bears. Use your freaking head, people. What he really was was a "meal".

quercus alba
03-15-2013, 01:28 PM
God saved Daniel in the lions den, maybe his family is appealing to the wrong god

Thumper
03-15-2013, 02:23 PM
He was doing God's work ... why did HE let the dufe get locked up in the first place? (just sayin') ;)

Now that the "pot stirring" is done ;) ... I LOVE to travel the "off-beaten" path myself ... but I know what I'm getting myself into and weigh the risks before moving forward. I also have an open invitation to go to Iran and would have probably gone by now if I hadn't been grounded with these dang health problems. What I would NOT be doing if I went, would be to try promoting Christianity in ANY totally bassackwards Middle Eastern country. Why not just stick a loaded gun to your head and pull the trigger? The result would be much the same.

As far as our government is concerned ... I've had quite a bit of experience with our foreign embassies. They don't "get you out of trouble" but the general rule is they will provide "assistance to arrested or detained U.S citizens". Take that for what it's worth. Much of that is also done through the Red Cross ... mostly to see that basic human needs are provided. Now something like the Iran hostage crisis is a whole 'nuther ballgame. We don't owe this guy much more than trying to "diplomatically" arrange for his release ... we have no real right to try forcing a release or sending in a frigging SEAL team. He made his bed ...

LJ3
03-15-2013, 03:54 PM
God has nothing to do with this. I agree with BBP. When you step foot in a land we don't control, knowing you are assuming a tremendous risk, it's all you.

Thumper
03-15-2013, 04:21 PM
I was just bein' a dick and you know it .. it's my job around this joint. Many will refuse to believe this, but Iran is a BEAUTIFUL country ... at least parts of it. I'd go in a heartbeat if I could get back into my traveling mode. This guy went in just asking for trouble and since he converted from Islam to Christianity, there's no way he didn't know what he was getting himself into. "Evangelizing" is a serious crime over there ... no way he doesn't know that. He has shit for brains IMHO. Heck, I can go straight to the "big house" in Thailand just for saying anything disparaging about the King ... or simply defacing a picture or poster with his image on it. Technically, you could go to jail for stepping on a dropped coin as the foot is the lowest part of your body and the coinage has an image of the King on it. I couldn't tell you how many dumbass tourists have been thrown in the pokey over there for just uttering something negative about the royal family ... although the King usually gets involved and commutes their sentences ... ummm, sooner or later. If some mideast dufebutt came here and murdered somebody, should we let him go scott free just because murder is accepted in his home country? Sure, that's an extreme example, but where do you draw the line?

Buckrub
03-15-2013, 05:59 PM
This country is officially "The Islamic Republic of Iran".

And I have no idea what y'all are talking about, I don't watch much news. But sounds like y'all are all spot on in this case.....

hotshot
03-18-2013, 10:20 AM
Actually God did allow Paul to be imprisoned for his beliefs... We get several bookds of the new testement from his writing while imprisoned. While I don't reccomend going to prison to be closer to God..... it worked 2000 yrs ago.
and yeah- he went on his own.

Buckrub
03-18-2013, 12:09 PM
Well, the Apostle Paul didn't go to prison so he could be closer to God, I don't think. He went because it was illegal to preach what he was preaching, and he did it anyway, having a Higher Law to follow than the law of the land, where it conflicted. Rome was a Conquering Army.......enslaving all that they conquered. You worshiped THEIR gods or none, or you went to prison. Thus, he went to prison. He even appealed to Caesar as a Roman Citizen (which he was) to get out, but it didn't work. He didn't ask God to miraculously get him out..........although God did that once for Peter, without being asked.

This guy wants to stand up for his rights, that's fine. This is one of the consequences. The US Government has no dog in this fight.