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BarryBobPosthole
07-02-2014, 08:52 AM
Sorry to be so political today, I'm not trying to be. But there's some stuff goin' on that interesting. One of of them is this proposal on Immigration Reform. Of course its a smart one, its led by Okies! anyway, the one thing this approach takes into consideration that other plans haven't so far is the fact that if they documented people correctly, there are legitimate employment opportunities, and not on a citizenship basis for many of these people. Putting them to work and taxing them is such an American thing to do I'm amazed we aren't doing this if nothing else. But the enforcement part has to be done too. But at least we can find a way to make them carry more of their own freight.

I hope these guys get their ideas listened to. They make too much sense.
BKB

http://www.tulsaworld.com/staff/ginniegraham/prominent-oklahoma-republicans-push-for-immigration-reform/article_56cb339a-57fb-5dcd-ba2d-cc86127fd75f.html

Citing billion-dollar losses in agriculture labor shortages, a group of current and past Oklahoma Republican leaders has asked the state’s congressional delegation to support approval of immigration reform.

A letter sent Tuesday includes 13 signatures including former Gov. Frank Keating, former Tulsa state Rep. Ron Peters and former Oklahoma Speaker of the House Kris Steele.

Keating said he comes at the issue from an enforcement perspective. Before becoming governor, he served as the third highest-ranking official in the U.S. Department of Justice overseeing the immigration service, U.S. Marshals, U.S. attorneys, the Secret Service and the nation’s role in Interpol.

He said the 1986 immigration act that former President Ronald Reagan supported fell short of addressing the long-term effect of border control. About 3 million undocumented immigrants gained legal residency through the act, which did not include any enforcement or security measures.

“To say the status quo is working is not recognizing how dangerous and porous our borders have become,” Keating said.

“We need to pass comprehensive immigration reform. We need to take care of the 11 million (undocumented immigrants) here now and expel the ones with criminal records.

“And we need to make sure to stop the continuation of people coming across the border, like what happened in the ’86 act.”

The letter is written under the letterhead for the Partnership for a New American Economy, which is a bipartisan group led by chairmen including Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger, media mogul Rupert Murdoch, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, Boeing CEO Jim McNerney and San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro.

Keating wrote an opinion piece for the Los Angeles Times in November calling for immigration reform based on economic and security grounds.

He met with President Barack Obama about three weeks ago with other Republican governors including former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and former Michigan Gov. John Engler.

Immigration dominated the dinner conversation, Keating said.

“The president asked why there was an unwillingness to really get this done,” Keating said. “I told him people are concerned you would decide enforcement would not be important right now and you would focus on regularizing the immigrants here. The U.S. House is not going to support that.”

Under the Obama administration, there have been 1.8 million deportations. At this pace, he is expected to have more deportations during his presidency than any other.

Through executive orders and administrative memos, Obama has shifted the priorities to prosecuting criminal immigrants and giving reprieve from deportation to undocumented immigrants who were brought to the country years ago as children.

A recent surge of Central American children and teenagers arriving at the border alone during the past year has reawakened the immigration policy debate.

Faced with a stalemate in Congress, Obama said he will continue to make changes in immigration policy and plans to shift attention away from the nation’s interior to the border.

Obama has been pushing for a comprehensive immigration package from Congress. While the Senate passed a bill, House Speaker John Boehner says the House will not vote on immigration reform this year.

Keating said there is a distrust of Obama in the House Republican caucus, citing presidential changes made to the Affordable Care Act.

He told the president an option would be to include language in the bill that would prevent any executive change or alterations. Obama indicated he would consider it, Keating said.

“I was surprised the president wanted to sit and talk with former Republican governors about this,” Keating said. “There is a willingness there.”

The letter to the Oklahoma congressional delegation states the immigration “system is broken for the business owners who are unable to grow their businesses due to workforce shortages.”

It states the shortage in the agriculture industry is causing a loss of more than $3 billion in the gross domestic product and more than $1 billion loss in farm income.

“Not only can we no longer economically afford to wait, but there is also broad support, including Republican voters, for fixing the broken U.S. Immigration System,” the letter states.

The partnership group supports reforms to secure borders through better technology, enhanced employer checks, greater opportunities for immigrants to work in the U.S. and a path to legal residency for undocumented immigrants.

It does not back an outright amnesty.

Keating said it’s time elected leaders start legislating by finding common ground on this issue.

“Let’s get this done for the sake of our country,” Keating said. “This all needs to be done in a comprehensive way, and people need to be less about politics and more about patriotism. If you want to get it done, you can.”

Thumper
07-02-2014, 09:06 AM
Dang, you're on a roll today ... and I'm on a roll agreeing with you. Hmmm, maybe I should make a doc appointment for a check-up. I feel fine, but obviously, something is wrong with me. :D

I will say ... I honestly feel that anyone in the agricultural areas who is not working and on public assistance ... and has no physical/medical problem preventing them from working ... should be put to work in the fields until they find gainful employment. Something tells me many of them would suddenly find a job ... even if it's flipping burgers. Why pay immigrants when millions are on the unemployment rolls?

In Thailand they have a law that no foreigner is allowed to work at ANY job that a Thai can do. Many foreigners go there to retire ... but VERY few go there to work. A foreigner can own a business there, but he must have Thai employees filling any position a Thai can fill. It has a TON of flaws ... but the basis is a good one. You also go to jail and/or deported if in the country illegally ... I REALLY like that law! No wait, we have the same law ... don't we?

Niner
07-02-2014, 10:49 AM
I think one of the biggest things they need to do is to plug up the sieve that we call a boarder.
One great way to go about that is to pull our boys out of the Middle East and re-deploy them along the boarder.

Once the boarder is secure, we can talk about Immigration Reform.

I know that probably sounds a bit redneck.....and I certainly don't live in one of the boarder states....but I really think that's a good idea.

BarryBobPosthole
07-02-2014, 10:54 AM
I'm not sure why that has to be done one before the other. To me border security is part and parcel to immigration reform of any kind. If we don't plan to enforce our current laws, why bother to worry about new ones?

BKB

Niner
07-02-2014, 11:28 AM
Bingo.

DeputyDog
07-02-2014, 02:11 PM
Because the politicians can't take credit for the enforcement of laws, only the passing of new ones.