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jb
09-23-2014, 09:37 AM
Viet Nam Wall of Facts

We should all remember, but If younger than 50 this should be read at least once.

A little history most people will never know.

Interesting Veterans Statistics off the Vietnam Memorial Wall.
 
There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall, including those added in 2010. 
 
The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 57 years since the first casualty. 
 
The first known casualty was Richard B. Fitzgibbon, of North Weymouth, Mass. Listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having been killed on June 8, 1956. His name is listed on the Wall with that of his son, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, who was killed on Sept. 7, 1965. 
 
There are three sets of fathers and sons on the Wall. 
 
39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger. 
 
8,283 were just 19 years old.

The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old. 
 
12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old. 
 
5 soldiers on the Wall were 16 years old. 
 
One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock was 15 years old. 
 
997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam ... 
 
1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam ... 
 
31 sets of brothers are on the Wall. 
 
Thirty one sets of parents lost two of their sons. 
 
54 soldiers attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . I wonder why so many from one school. 
 
8 Women are on the Wall, Nursing the wounded. 
 
244 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War;
153 of them are on the Wall. 
 
Beallsville, Ohio with a population of 475 lost 6 of her sons. 
 
West Virginia had the highest casualty rate per capita in the nation.
There are 711 West Virginians on the Wall. 
 
The Marines of Morenci - They led some of the scrappiest high school football and basketball teams that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses along the Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest. And in the patriotic camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps.
Their service began on Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home. 
 
The Buddies of Midvale - LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah on Fifth, Sixth and Seventh avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent sandlot ball field.
And they all went to Vietnam . In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967, all three would be killed. LeRoy was killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy's assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7, Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. 
 
The most casualty deaths for a single day was on January 31, 1968 -- 245 deaths. 
 
The most casualty deaths for a single month was May 1968 - 2,415 casualties were incurred.
 
For most Americans who read this they will only see the numbers that the Vietnam War created. To those of us who survived the war, and to the families of those who did not, we see the faces, we feel the pain that these numbers created. We are, until we too pass away, haunted with these numbers, because they were our friends, fathers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters. There are no noble wars, just noble warriors. 
 

Buckrub
09-23-2014, 09:44 AM
I have done many sober things in my life. Standing at the Wall was the first and foremost. I remain convinced I stand on the wrong side of that Wall.

BarryBobPosthole
09-23-2014, 09:45 AM
Good post.

BKB

Thumper
09-23-2014, 10:00 AM
When I saw The Wall for the first time, my knees went weak and I almost dropped to the ground. I then sat on a bench and wept like a baby. The odd part is, I'm not normally that emotional and usually stand up well under pressure. I personally helped burn a truck load of dead Vietnamese/American babies in an open fire pit who were killed in 'Nam during the evacuation ... it was a tough and emotional experience ... but NOTHING like what I experienced while standing in front of that wall. The odd part ... it wasn't just me ... there were quite a few vets on other benches that broke down and we were all trying to comfort each other. To this day, I've never experienced that feeling anywhere else ... even at the funeral of a close family member ... I'm always looked at as "the strong one".

The Wall has a "power" I can't explain.

Buckrub
09-23-2014, 10:10 AM
Bubbles took a picture of me standing in front of it. Cold, dreary, misty day. Fitting. That picture hasn't moved from where I can see since she took it in 1998.

Thumper
09-23-2014, 10:15 AM
I bought a big picture book when I was there and I open it about once a year. EVERY TIME I get all choked up ... my throat tightens up and my eyes get teared up. I understand the psychological aspect of the whole deal ... what I can't understand is how totally out of character it is for anything to affect me the way The Wall does. Even if it's just looking at pictures.

BarryBobPosthole
09-23-2014, 10:21 AM
RIP Mauserman! We ain't forgettin ya!

BKB

quercus alba
09-23-2014, 01:39 PM
somewhere there are a bunch of politicians roasting in hell for killing so many of our young men that war.

Thumper
09-23-2014, 02:02 PM
somewhere there are a bunch of politicians roasting in hell for killing so many of our young men that war.

What sucks is ... it didn't accomplish a danged thing as far as I know. The old "Domino Theory" never really panned out and I really enjoy visiting the country as a TOURIST these days.