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    I think the thing that concerns me the most is the ability to control the message. I don’t what to hear about how “it’s always been controlled” and examples of how the media portrayed FDR and Kennedy for example, or delivered the news about WWII.

    I’m talking about how the tech companies like Google, Facebook, and Twitter, to name a few, control what information is dispersed. If you use Google as a search engine, they control what results you get and in what order the results are displayed in.

    Twitter and Facebook have been putting labels on articles indicating they contain “false information” , etc.

    Now they are completely shutting down speech they disagree with. Trump has had his accounts permanently shut down because he “incited violence”. I wonder how many other accounts have been or will be shut down.

    Here is a screen shot of an article that shows that “Hang Pence” is trending on Twitter with over 50,000 tweets. That sounds like that it is inciting violence to me. I wonder how many of those accounts have been suspended or shut down?




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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog View Post
    I think the thing that concerns me the most is the ability to control the message. I don’t what to hear about how “it’s always been controlled” and examples of how the media portrayed FDR and Kennedy for example, or delivered the news about WWII.

    I’m talking about how the tech companies like Google, Facebook, and Twitter, to name a few, control what information is dispersed. If you use Google as a search engine, they control what results you get and in what order the results are displayed in.

    Twitter and Facebook have been putting labels on articles indicating they contain “false information” , etc.

    Now they are completely shutting down speech they disagree with. Trump has had his accounts permanently shut down because he “incited violence”. I wonder how many other accounts have been or will be shut down.

    Here is a screen shot of an article that shows that “Hang Pence” is trending on Twitter with over 50,000 tweets. That sounds like that it is inciting violence to me. I wonder how many of those accounts have been suspended or shut down?




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    Come on, you know better than that. The Persecution Complex doesn’t look good on you.

    The one and only reason that any of these platforms or users got shut down is that they were used to plan federal crimes including murder. These companies can be held liable if they knowingly allow that to continue.

    Or maybe’Hang Mike Pence’ which is currently trending on Twitter is what you consider acceptable speech on a public platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    The one and only reason that any of these platforms or users got shut down is that they were used to plan federal crimes including murder. These companies can be held liable if they knowingly allow that to continue. BKB
    Where do you draw the line? If it's planned over the phone, is Verizon (et al.) responsible? If notes are written, is the paper company that manufactured the notepad responsible? Is AOL responsible if it was planned using eMail? Is the Post Office responsible if plans were sent through the US Mail? UPS? FedEx? You did use the term "knowingly". Should that be a free pass for all the above mentioned avenues to open one's mail? Listen to their phone conversations? Open all packages for no reason other than looking for possible criminal event planning? As I asked in my first sentence, where do you draw the line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    Come on, you know better than that. The Persecution Complex doesn’t look good on you.

    The one and only reason that any of these platforms or users got shut down is that they were used to plan federal crimes including murder. These companies can be held liable if they knowingly allow that to continue.

    Or maybe’Hang Mike Pence’ which is currently trending on Twitter is what you consider acceptable speech on a public platform.
    Jaysus,

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    So why is Apple going to remove Parler from the App Store? Is it because “they”, meaning the mega tech companies, can’t control the message on there?

    BTW, Pence was my Governor before he became VP and I really liked him. The “hang Pence” was my example. I doubt all 50K people that tweeted that have had their accounts deleted like Trump did?

    If you control the message, you control everything. Sounds like Soviet era Russia or Nazi Germany to me when ideas you don’t agree with are subject to censorship and restrictions.

    I used this as an extreme example several years ago when they stopped teaching cursive in schools but it kinda applies here. Say for example you have all future generations that can’t read or write cursive. No big deal right? Who really uses it for much more than a signature anyway. What is the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution written in? So if no one can read the original document or copies of it, how will they know what it says? Only through transcription by other people, right? Say the people controlling the release and publication of these transcripts want it to say something completely different. Who would know? Especially if these same people flag as untrue or censor anyone or anything that says something different than what they want people to know.

    This all sounds like something from Orwell or Huxley and outside of the realm of possibility but with the amount of information that is controlled by Facebook, Google, and Twitter it could be possible.


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