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    Senior Member (too much time on their hands) airbud7's Avatar
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    Dam Barry!....I didn't know they made one either!...but they do!


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    Yep, same chassis as mine, Mercedes-Benz Sprinter chassis.

    https://www.winnebago.com/models/pro...class-c/navion

    navion 2.jpg
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    BTW ... the BASE price on that Atlas is over $276,000! Ouch!
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    So you want quality butyou don’t want to have to pay for it.
    Damn socialist.
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    Nothing's perfect and Airstream has it's issues like anyone else. Here are some posts from some of the forums I follow: (the particular model doesn't matter, any model will have issues and nobody is immune)

    I took my new Atlas RV home from the dealer and started inspecting and getting familiar with all the equipment as I had a long anticipated vacation coming up. I immediately noticed that the Onan generator did not start properly and the solar system was barely charging the lithium batteries. A list of the issues with my brand new Atlas after first taking delivery are below:

    Cummins Onan RV QD 3200 generator not working at all.
    Battery charging system is not charging the battery properly.
    The Magnum MMS1012 is not properly set-up for the lithium battery and does not meet the specifications to charge Battle Born 100Amp lithium batteries.
    When the house battery becomes depleted, everything inside is shut down and nothing works. The manual suggests turning on the chassis engine for a few minutes to charge it. This function did not work. Meaning you can be stuck with no power and nothing electronic working in the RV even when you connect to external power!
    Victron Energy MPPT Control locked up and not working.
    Sliding door not properly installed and broken.
    Folding Stairs sometimes do not work properly.
    Cannot connect to the solar charging system APP
    Shelving in the storage compartment is incorrect size and falling down to the second compartment.
    Pantry storage compartment not properly locking, opening on every turn.
    Several door hinges broken.
    Skylight occasionally not closing properly.
    Manual describes a completely different inverter charger controller.

    After delaying my trip while my Atlas spent three weeks in the shop, here's a list of additional issues I found during my first trip:

    Power Stabilizer Jacks completely locked out and not functioning.
    Skylight broken cannot even open.
    The side storage compartment door is broken and cannot open.
    Echomaster mirror monitors with sight cameras and parking sensors are very old technology, with low resolution, very low brightness, and are extremely slow. It takes two to three seconds from turning the signal to seeing the image in the mirror, which is an incredibly long time while driving.
    Driving in the daylight when the sun is out, you can barely see the image and when you put on sunglasses it is virtually impossible to see.
    When you put bicycle carrier racks on a hitch mount, you get attention blinking on a screen all the time, which is very distracting and and no way to clear or disable this warning.
    The wires inside the control cabinet are loose and make a lot of noise while driving, creating an additional distraction.

    Here's another owner:

    I bought my new Atlas (paid over a quarter Million $$$) and am on my first trip. I am on the road, running dry and winterized, with two 10 year olds, and my wife. 26 hrs on generator, heading south on 81, and the generator died. No power to the switch: it doesn’t illuminate, no juice. No place to plug in, headed toward Albany, and I will ask to plug in at the dealer for the night, camp grounds closed. Atlas and Gen Brand new. Other than that, steps work intermittently, that will get you stuck somewhere, I am looking at possibly removing the automatic stairs so I can get home. I have duct tape over the door handles so nobody opens the door: we are using cab door. The shower is coming apart, very messy caulking, wood veneer fell off. Half of my GFI plugs, and the TV don’t work. 5 of the drawers and cabinets flew open, leaving stuff all over the floor. Turned out that the cabinet doors and drawers were all just slid in and not connected. There is no manual start button on the Cummins Onan 3200. Breakers all look ok. Really hope I can last 3 more days without much sleep, and without freezing to death.

    You can find 'em all over the net. Just saying, nothing is flawless and the motorhome market, no matter the builder, is sloppy at best. Quality control is more like, "if it runs and rolls, ship it!" I'm tellin' ya' ... if the Japanese ever considered entering this market, the U.S. builders would go straight into the toilet almost overnight, but I don't see that happening and evidently the U.S. builders aren't concerned about it.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness" - Mark Twain

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