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I hope no one is getting upset about this discussion. I wasn't poking at you Bucky. I'm one of those who will pick a verse or two, expecially when I'm talking with my Catholic friends. Unfortunately it usually shuts them up right quick because most of them haven't opened a Bible in their recent past. I love having these discussions because I think perspective is what it's all about. Hearing others, sharing yours, thoughtfully considering... because again, the messages are there, and I think clarity comes from these thoughtful discussions. Like you say Bucky, it ain't hard. It may not be easy enough for some of us (Len) But with a little effort, and discussion, I think this world would be a much better place to live.