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    Speaking of health

    I've been in one of my 'phases' the past couple of months that I go through every year or so. My triglycerides are high and I can't take statins, or at least most of them I can't, so diet and exercise are about my only options. Mainly just being very aware of daily calorie load and I try to maintain a good mix of where my calories and carbs come from. So far so good. But something I read here recently and then this article today kind of pisses me off to be honest. So called 'experts' have told us for forty years that eggs are bad for you. Now they come out with new research that says no they aren't. In fact they're good for you.

    Just so ya know, I never stopped eating them. You can't find a better source of protein if you're doing any lifting or cardio stuff. And in little individually wrapped packages.

    But the point is, how the hell do we know what is BS and what is really researched stuff?

    BKB



    Breakfast just wouldn’t be the same without the incredible edible egg. But over the years, the egg yolk has gotten a bad rap. Studies warning of elevated cholesterol levels and plaque buildup in coronary arteries have caused many people to reject them.

    “Very few foods have the same diverse nutrient makeup available in a single egg.”

    - Maria Bella, founder of Top Balance Nutrition in New York City

    You need only to take a look at the abundance of supposedly heart-healthy breakfast options out there. Egg-white omelets are available at most restaurants, and even McDonald’s offers the Egg White Delight McMuffin – an egg white-based breakfast sandwich.

    But just when you think it’s too risky to touch an egg yolk ever again, there’s new information that may make you think twice before dumping those bright yellow orbs. Thanks to modern farming, their quality is improving. And when it comes to classic cuisine, chefs say there’s nothing quite like them.

    The latest studies have found that an egg yolk a day has no effect on cholesterol levels -- even for people with elevated numbers. A study published in January 2013 by the British Journal of Medicine examined the relationship between egg consumption and coronary disease from 17 studies over 30 years and concluded, “Higher consumption of eggs (up to one egg per day) is not associated with increased risk of coronary heart disease or stroke.”

    It’s important to remember that yolks do contain a significant amount of cholesterol – 185 mg, or about 60 percent of the American Heart Association’s daily recommended allowance.

    But Maria Bella, a registered dietitian and founder of Top Balance Nutrition in New York City, says there are lots of benefits to eating the whole egg.

    “Very few foods have the same diverse nutrient makeup available in a single egg,” Bella told FoxNews.com. Those nutrients include vitamins like folic acid, choline, biotin and lutein. Eggs also provide about 10 percent of the daily recommended vitamin D. And almost all of these nutrients are found in yolk.

    Mitch Kanter, executive director of the Egg Nutrition Board, says his organization is working to fund new studies about how eggs affect our diets. “More research done in the last five to 10 years has shown us that cholesterol is not the nutritional boogeyman we once thought,” he says.

    Even the way hens are being raised is producing healthier eggs.

    In 2010, the USDA conducted a nationwide nutritional study and found that eggs today contain 12 percent less cholesterol and more vitamin D than they did over 10 years ago, due to bird breeding and new diets. That’s because commercial factory hens are fed a corn-based feed that’s been nutritionally enhanced.

    Although Kanter admits that the egg industry is a far cry from humble backyard chicken coops, the commercial factory farms that dominate the industry are under pressure from consumers to replace cramped, overcrowded cages or even cage-free environments for its egg-laying hens.

    Even the smaller organic egg producers are figuring out ways to improve cage life for their egg-laying hens.

    Jesse Laflamme, co-owner and CEO of Pete and Gerry’s Organics, says his company’s hens have more cage space, get organic feed rich with ingredients like flax seed and are free of antibiotics. As a result, Pete and Gerry’s -- the first American egg producer to be labeled Certified Humane by the non-profit group Humane Farm Animal Care – says it produces eggs that contain 200 mg of omega-3 fatty acid, as opposed to the 37 mg found in many commercially produced eggs. Almost all of this essential fatty acid is found in the yolk.

    “We definitely feel the pressure from industrial farms, where a caged egg is simply a commodity,” Laflamme says. “They’re putting in different quality feed, so the eggs are going to be different. What’s not in the eggs is just as important as what’s in them.”

    As for flavor, Laflamme says his cage-free eggs “just taste different.”

    But Marc Bauer, a master chef at the International Culinary Center, thinks organic and non-organic eggs taste about the same, especially after they’ve been incorporated into a recipe. And when it comes to cooking, he says the whole egg is an essential ingredient.

    Eggs are an important binder in pastries, add flavor to classic French dishes and help remove impurities from consommés. The yolks are nearly irreplaceable for thickening custards and act as an emulsifier in countless sauces. No one wants a hollandaise that separates.

    “The egg is one of the important parts of classic cuisine,” Bauer says. “Today we have synthetic binders and texture improvers, but the egg will always be the natural choice.”

    He said he’s experimented with tofu and thinks the Japanese variety can form a silky vegan substitute for certain creamy desserts and quiches, but he still teaches his students that, generally, whole foods are best.

    “I personally never use egg substitutes. Everything should be in moderation, but for cooking, you cannot beat the protein and vitamins in a natural egg.”

    His family’s favorite egg dish? “Softly scrambled (with the yolk) in the traditional way, just before they set. It’s perfect.”

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    We were told in the 80's that the next Ice Age was upon us.

    now we are told Global Warming is the deal.

    "They" are full of b/s.

    But a real question............why can't you take Statins? Everyone should take statins!!!

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    I don't eat eggs because I don't like them, never have. But if I liked them, I'd eat them. And I can match you about 3 for 1 with health problems. Today I ran a chain saw all afternoon. What did you do?
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    I think like a lot if foods it's partially how you prepare them. Stay away from frying them in bacon far or slathering them in mayonnaise and it goes a long way.
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    Yep, I eat a couple of poached ones at least three days a week.

    Bucky, so far almost every statin I've tried makes me feel like I've been beat with a batafter a day or so. I just don't tolerate them for some reason.

    And I'm not complaining about my health, I'm complaining about the people we depend on to tell us what is healthy and what is not.

    BKB

    Ps and I ran conference calls all afternoon!

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    I feel ya mah niggah. Now I'm reading all kinds of research that the "avoid cholesterol at all costs or you'll die" sort of cardiology is being strongly contested.

    I have no idea what to believe.
    If we all threw our problems in a pile, and you saw everyone else's problems-- you'd take yours back.

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    My cholesterol is actually pretty well within norms. Its my triglycerides that arecthrough the roof. That just from eating crap and having terrible exercise habits the past two whole years. I let my knee surgery give me an excuse for a year and then just never fully did a thing to get my strength back. I was pathetically out of shape when I started trying to get on a program over Christmas break. Only now after over two months am I up to the point where I'm actually looking forward to my daily workouts. Those first two months though kicked my ass!
    Part of it being almost 60. But the biggest part was my own lazy self. I need to go follow Larke around for about a year.

    BKB

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    I quit paying attention to all that b/s when we were told butter was killing us all and if we want to live, we needed to change over to margarine. Of course, years later we were told margarine was gonna kill us and butter is GOOD for us!

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    Butter is good.

    So is red meat.

    Living is good.

    The combination of all that is why I get up every day.

    The End.

    P.S.
    I am convinced the long term statin use has affected my short term memory. It is bother me immensely. But I never heard of it making you ache, etc. Maybe it does me too??? I just thought I was gettin' old!
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    Haha. I don't know either. I just know when I've taken them I got a body ache very similar to the flu and when I stopped taking them it went away and my doctor kind of said uh-oh. no more of those.

    The closer you can get to the sun, the better it is for you. I think that's a good general rule.

    BKB

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    You know they make a LOT of different kinds/brands/types of 'em, right?
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    Oh yeah. I'm currently on a very low dose of one called Livalo that I've tolerated quite well. I'm not sure what the difference is.

    BKB

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    ???

    Well THAT is a statin, dufe!!
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    Dang. Muscle pain IS a side effect.......



    Micromedex Consumer Medication Information.

    Published: February 1, 2014
    Pitavastatin (By mouth)
    pi-tav-a-STAT-in

    Lowers high cholesterol and triglyceride levels in the blood. This medicine is a statin.
    Drug classes

    Antihyperlipidemic (About this - PubMed Health)
    Uses
    Uses of This Medicine

    Pitavastatin is used together with a proper diet to treat high cholesterol levels and triglyceride (fat) levels in the blood. This medicine may help prevent medical problems (e.g., heart attacks, strokes) that are caused by fat clogging the blood vessels.

    Pitavastatin belongs to the group of medicines called HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors, or statins. It works to reduce the amount of cholesterol in the blood by blocking an enzyme that is needed to make cholesterol.

    This medicine is available only with your doctor's prescription.

    Other uses (PubMed Health)
    How To Use
    Tablet

    Take your medicine as directed. Your dose may need to be changed several times to find what works best for you.

    Missed dose:Take a dose as soon as you remember. If it is almost time for your next dose, wait until then and take a regular dose. Do not take extra medicine to make up for a missed dose.

    Store the medicine in a closed container at room temperature, away from heat, moisture, and direct light.
    Drugs and Foods to Avoid

    Ask your doctor or pharmacist before using any other medicine, including over-the-counter medicines, vitamins, and herbal products.

    Do not use this medicine together with cyclosporine.

    Some foods and medicines can affect how pitavastatin works. Tell your doctor if you are using colchicine, erythromycin, niacin, rifampin, medicine to treat HIV/AIDS, other medicine to lower cholesterol (such as fenofibrate, gemfibrozil), or a blood thinner (such as warfarin).
    When Not To Use

    This medicine is not right for everyone. Do not use if you had an allergic reaction to pitavastatin, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have active liver disease.
    Warnings

    It is not safe to take this medicine during pregnancy. It could harm an unborn baby. Tell your doctor right away if you become pregnant.

    Tell your doctor if you have kidney disease, diabetes, or thyroid problems. Tell your doctor if you have a history of liver disease or if you drink alcohol regularly.

    This medicine may cause the following problems:

    Myopathy or rhabdomyolysis (muscle damage) that could lead to kidney damage

    Make sure any doctor or dentist who treats you knows that you use this medicine. You may need to stop using this medicine if you have major surgery, a major injury, or other serious health problems.

    Your doctor will do lab tests at regular visits to check on the effects of this medicine. Keep all appointments.

    Keep all medicine out of the reach of children. Never share your medicine with anyone.
    Possible side effects
    Summary More details
    Call your doctor right away if you notice any of these side effects:

    Allergic reaction: Itching or hives, swelling in your face or hands, swelling or tingling in your mouth or throat, chest tightness, trouble breathing

    Dark urine or pale stools, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, stomach pain, yellow skin or eyes

    Unexplained muscle pain, tenderness, or weakness

    Unusual tiredness or fever
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    Well, I wasn't lying about it. you sure you ain't from Missouri?

    BKB

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    May be.

    I thought you said A) I can't take any statin drugs, and B) I'm taking a statin drug.
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    I did say I can't tolerate statin drugs. And I also said I am currently on a very low does of one that so far is not bothering me. It CAN be both ways you know.

    And I answered your 'aeration ' post in Fishing.


    BKB

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