Buckrub, I agree with your doc. Well unless you can find a guided hunt on private land where 90% of the hunting is done from a pick up truck. Those hunts do exist and I have a friend in New Mexico that guides such hunts. Not likely I will ever go with him though as elk just don't light my fire like some other animals do. I will say this though, I'm glad I got this bull when I did as I could not physically make that same hunt right now. I'm 30 lbs heavier, much older, and just don't have the stamina.