what started this whole discussion is the fact that a shooter opened fire on some students at FSU, shot three and was killed within minutes by campus security. I don't need a made up scenario because this is the one we started with. Its been suggested that if the campus hadn't been declared a gun free zone by liberal pinko facist media loving pigs, that the well armed students at FSU would have risen up and blown the fucker away in seconds instead of minutes and nobody would have been hurt except the shooter. that is the lala land bullshit fantasy that you would have me believe would happen in this real life scenario. And I say that is pretty much a lala land bullshit fantasy.

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