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    Is nothing with this man original?

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    You guys are making me hungry....

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    This is all over the 'news'. I'm sure I'll get mine someday, but I can't help laughing my butt off over this. This is hilarious stuff......from an ironical point of view.

    The organization formed to fight racism has pushed this woman to resign, because of racism.

    And besides...........ain't she a color? She doesn't look colorless to me! ......... Which is the problem when you confused color with race. Course, you have to do that, or else you're 'profiling' (another word for 'noticing stuff').
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckrub View Post
    This is hilarious stuff......from an ironical point of view ... The organization formed to fight racism has pushed this woman to resign, because of racism.
    Huh??? Have you actually been following the story's details? Or simply assuming? Everything I've seen or heard says the NAACP has no problem with her and has been actually defending her while posting statements supporting her. She resigned on her own due to all the negative publicity and controversy.

    Here's the last statement I read from the NAACP:

    "One's racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership."

    In its statement, the NAACP said it respects Rachel Dolezal's privacy as she faces what they call a legal issue with her family. The organization further added that its leaders can come from any background.

    "In every corner of this country, the NAACP remains committed to securing political, educational, and economic justice for all people, and we encourage Americans of all stripes to become members and serve as leaders in our organization," the statement read.
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    The issue shouldn't be about her race, but her subterfuge in claiming she is a different race than she really is. And all for advancement of herself. She's a liar to put it bluntly.

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    No argument there. A liar ... and a "wigger" for sure.

    The argument I'm hearing now is, if Bruce Jenner can do the trans-gender thing ... why can't she do the trans-race thing? WTF??? This world is getting goofier by the minute!
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    You're dancing around the subject, methinks, Posty. Of course, you are 100% right, correct. She is a liar, and I said so.

    But that's not the bigger picture.......which is that the constituency of that organization is all up in arms, aghast, that a white person would have the audacity to pose as black, and do it sufficiently to rise to a position to lead them. You say the issue shouldn't be about race.........and again, you are RIGHT! BUT IT IS!! By whose doing, is that so?????

    THAT is what I am laughing at, and find ironic and stupid, and I can't stop laughing at it. It's asinine! And that's my judgment.
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    call any black person 'colored' to their face and you're likely to get called out for it. Maybe even by the
    NAACP. And how is it cool to have a Jewish Antidefamation League when we have the entire Republican Party?

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    Oh good grief.

    Whatever.
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    *snort*
    if you didn't like my comments so far on this, you're gonna HATE this one.......

    Just heard a guy say on this subject "So, the NAACP doesn't like folks masquerading as black folks, but they voted for one for President".

    I may be evil, can't deny that..........but I keep laughing at stuff at this one.........
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    It's a crazy ass story. Somehow, there's a small part of me that feels badly for this woman. She is clearly not a mentally stable person. It's one thing to come to realize you're sorta crazy on your own and maybe get help in dealing with whatever it is you need to deal with. But to have the whole world notice at once and put you in a white hot spotlight with your craziness... She's only got herself to blame, to be sure.

    If becoming trans-race becomes an actual thing now, I'm moving to Australia.
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    She's no idiot ... if you follow her education and life's accomplishments, she appears to be pretty dang bright and talented ... BUT, she's a pathalogical liar. What "wannabe" isn't? She just seems to carry it to the extreme and it's biting her in the ass right now. She could probably do a lot of good if she ever gets the web of lies straightened out and gets on with her life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckrub View Post
    *snort*
    if you didn't like my comments so far on this, you're gonna HATE this one.......

    Just heard a guy say on this subject "So, the NAACP doesn't like folks masquerading as black folks, but they voted for one for President".

    I may be evil, can't deny that..........but I keep laughing at stuff at this one.........
    I never said I didn't like your comments on the issue. I just said they were platitudes. You still haven't explained how you'd like things to be in a country where we were intolerant of other religions and did what we could to eliminate diversity. Gas chambers? Concentration camps? What? Go back to not electing catholics as president? That was the intolerance of the 50's and 60's, your so called golden age of America. And we had segregation then so that was our answer to diversity. Its not that I don't like your comments, its just that I don't understand however you think we should be. You started out bitching about how those two things were going to be our downfall but you never explained why or how.

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    I think he means we should go by what MLK said and judge people "not by the color of their skin" but by their actions.
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    Platitudes is a put down.

    I'm in a doc office. More later.

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    I never thought of platitudes as a put down.

    platitude
    [plat-i-tood, -tyood]
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    noun
    1.
    a flat, dull, or trite remark, especially one uttered as if it were fresh or profound.
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    the quality or state of being flat, dull, or trite:
    the platitude of most political oratory.


    Well dang, turns out it IS a put down!

    Don't be a butthole BBP!

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    Well, in this case acplatitude would be a compliment because he really thought that then he's really would be a butthole.
    Like me!

    I may write a book in fact. 'Butthole Like Me'.

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    maybe she feels black inside.... ... No, wait, it is a fact she had a little black in her!!! lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    I never said I didn't like your comments on the issue. I just said they were platitudes. You still haven't explained how you'd like things to be in a country where we were intolerant of other religions and did what we could to eliminate diversity. Gas chambers? Concentration camps? What? Go back to not electing catholics as president? That was the intolerance of the 50's and 60's, your so called golden age of America. And we had segregation then so that was our answer to diversity. Its not that I don't like your comments, its just that I don't understand however you think we should be. You started out bitching about how those two things were going to be our downfall but you never explained why or how.

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    I'm sitting by the pool today smiling and disturbing what little piles of doodoo I can find? I learnt it from Larke.

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    OK, back from a day at the Lawyer and Doctor (routine stuff)........and finally sitting down (and listening to it thunder, imagine that). Let me see if I can somehow answer your questions and contentions.

    I took your comments as a put down, and re-reading them here again, I still do. Sort of a minor one, but one anyway. If not, I apologize for misreading. You are wont (I like that word) to accuse me betimes of 'spouting conservative platitudes', as if A) they are somehow bad and B) I don't know how to think for myself. I think for myself, then often plagiarize those who bespeak my thoughts better than I.

    Now.......first, I didn't 'bitch about these things being our downfall', that's an assumption and a leap on your part. I did speak negatively of the current view of Diversity. I will explain what I meant herein.

    You heard me complain about the way we deal with Diversity and you jumped to this partial quote ".....Gas chambers? Concentration camps? What? Go back to not electing catholics as president? That was the intolerance of the 50's and 60's, your so called golden age of America. That's an almost humorous method of argument. It's called "Raising negative generalizations so as to imply that they are, or were, ubiquitous". And worse, you made some assumptions to even bring up such a thing. Your assumption is that I have called the age of the 50's and 60's the Golden Age of America. I don't remember doing that.

    Your generalizations of that age are, in fact accurate.........but incomplete. Those are indeed the negative aspects of that age, and they would be the reasons I would NOT advocate a total return to such a time. Those are the black marks of that era, and no one should want that to return. HOWSOMEVER.........they are not a total depiction of those times, nor complete, nor really accurate if applied to everyone. I don't blame all of Germany for Nazi-ism (though I blame the general population more than zero!). I remember the 50's and 60's era, I grew up in that era. That is not my fault. I had no control over such a thing. It happened. But I remember other things in that era that WERE good things. Thus, to answer your first contention that I somehow advocate(d) going back to that era, I do and did not. I don't want those bad things. But what I WOULD like is to take the good things from that era and implement them. I'd like to see poor folks have a higher percentage of intact families. I'd like to live again where we didn't have to lock our doors. I'd like to watch Huntley and Brinkley and get a summary of what happened today, and nothing more. I'd like to see Walter Cronkite cry when man hit foot on the moon. I'd like to see when Personal Responsibility was an American ideal and espoused by everyone I knew, or read about. I'd like to see a time again where morals were in check, and ugliness was not the norm. SO, if I could somehow eliminate all the bad things you mentioned, the intolerance and the bigotry and the ugliness, and still retain the good parts I remember, then I'm for it!

    As for my contention that Diversity is killing us, I stand by it. But here's what I mean. I think it's abhorrent that we spend so much time and energy counting off, classifying, pigeon-holing, labeling each other. The story about this woman is such a perfect example of this! It's absurd! Worse, way way worse.....is the issue of a great group of folks getting up in arms because this person came to be in a position of leadership among that group, and because of labeling and classifying, they conclude she doesn't belong.

    Here's my analogy. If one day all of the...........um........let's say, all of the Red Headed Ugly People that are Left Handed......The RHUP-LH'ers........got together and said "We want equality and justice. We're tired of having to fight fair for our supper. We want free stuff, and we want reparations for being treated like........well, like red headed step children. So now we have the RHUP-LH Association, and RHUP-LH Colleges and such. And brunettes? SCREW THEM!! They can't join. They are no good! They are biased. They were in control TOO LONG, let us rise up and give the Red Heads their true place! And America ends up divided over these RHUP-LH'ers and all the rest of us.

    Is that good? It's Diversity. We are diverse.......we have RHUP-LH guys/gals, and we have others. Then let's say a few other similar groups arise. Now, we count each group every time we fill out a Census. We are asked by doctor's forms which group we belong to. We make laws that mention RHUP-LH'ers and say they cannot be discriminated against (which makes it easier to discriminate against them, as it turns out). And guess what? Not one of the RHUP-LH'ers can help it. They can't help being Red Headed. They can't help being Ugly. They were born that way. Same for left handed, though I guess with extreme work they could overcome such a handicap.

    Is that what we want? That's Diversity, as I see it. That's what's wrong with Diversity.

    I want us all to be equal. I want MLK's words to be real. God made people. He made different colored and shaped and such, people. I do NOT KNOW WHY! I wasn't in on the design. If I had been, knees and backs would be far different! But He didn't confer with me. He just did it, and it ain't up to me to knock someone for being Red Headed or Ugly! But I do not, and should not, have to put up with them banding together and demanding a single thing on this earth that I don't get, or a single thing that they don't acquire and obtain by their own personal work, behavior, and activity.

    And that's what I mean by Diversity is killing us. This constant noticing and worrying about our differences is a terrible way to function. It's what so many people have wrong with Churches today. They can't figure out why they are all different and yet claim to be right. Some probably are wrong, but still, that's a good analogy. We should be emphasizing our similarities. We don't have to be all alike. We should be clearly noticing that we have obvious differences, and even discuss them, but if they cannot be helped they should not be counted, tallied, labeled, or worried about. If we'd do that, I believe we'd be way better off.

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    I pour my heart out, and this bozo is snorkeling with bikini babes.

    Well, I swan.
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    I got this today from a woman here...........I pass it on verbatim:

    I read an article that proclaimed Ms. Dolezal has a mental illness and needs treatment. How is it that a white woman who "identifies as black" needs mental help...but a man who "identifies as a woman" is praised for his courage to "live his truth"? BOTH are mentally ill. It's just that one is the right flavor of crazy to appeal to the current liberal cause...and the other is not.

    And again..........I laughed at that. There's been little in the 'news' to make me laugh lately.........but this one just keeps on keeping on.
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    I hear everything you're saying ... but we look at "diversity" in different ways. Personally, I love diversity and it's one of the things I love about traveling. I love running around New York City and experiencing all the different ethnic neighborhoods and especially their foods. China Town in San Francisco or L.A. is a wonderful experience ... along with Korea Town, or even the Japanese sections I enjoy visiting. I would hate to go to Baskin Robbins only to find out their only offering is vanilla!

    That said, there are groups that cast a negative light on diverstity. Just like you mention the plus' and negatives of the 50's-60's .. there are plus' and negatives with "diverse" groups ... be it color, religion or ethnicity. Also, as you mentioned, take out the negatives, keep the positives and a diverse population is a wonderful thing.

    There's no "blanket" way to cover the issue. In MY view, your vision of diversity is mostly negative ... in your view (even when you attempt to sugar-coat it with "fancy-talk") it's basically negative. Where do you draw the line with diversity? IMHO even "White Trash" is exactly that, "trash". But I have no problem with hicks or rednecks.

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    Well ok then. IMHO you missed my point, but ok.

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    If we all threw our problems in a pile, and you saw everyone else's problems-- you'd take yours back.

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    I guess the people that hired her as President and Black Studies Instructor, failed to 'profile' at that point in time!! They waited till now to do that!!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    And can you tell I'm sitting by the pool today smiling and disturbing what little piles of doodoo I can find? I learnt it from Larke. BKB
    I can't believe you would besmirch my good name in this manner. Your disturbing is light weight at best.... If it were ME kicking the do-do piles on this thread I would say something like I don't see why the black folks are upset a white woman posed as a black gal, they didn't raise hell when Michael Jackson turned white!
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    Bucky, you obviously don't appreciate my postion here as Senior Staff Contrarian.

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    I espouse for the title. It's simple jealousy. Forgive me.
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