Man! Did somebody pull the plug on this joint?

[Thumper]

Talk about dead! I guess P-hole is "attempting" to catch fish and Bucky is watching his cohorts plant worthless food plots at their camp. That makes for some "quiet time" around here!

I'm plugging away on eBay trying to eke out a bit of supplemental income and trying to finish up in time to catch the debate tonight. I'm sorry, but I love a circus and can't wait to hear Trump step on his dick 10 or 12 times and watch his ratings shoot up even higher tomorrow. He needs to be re-named Teflon!

Anyway, not too many of you seem all that interested at this point ... but I'm looking forward to some entertainment tonight!

[Arty]

It's a full time job being me. Just ask anyone.
I've been lurkin more than postin but you are right it's pretty dead.

[LJ3]

Deader'n Jimmy's sex life.

[Nandy]

It's a full time job being me. Just ask anyone.

But does it pays good!!??

[Buckrub]

This isn't a debate. What it IS, is silliness. Without a gun to my head, I won't watch.

[Thumper]

Watched the whole thing from beginning to end. It started out a bit silly and nasty (like a couple of teen aged girls scratching and pulling hair), but it finally settled down to a semblance of seriousness. I can't say I'm any better off after watching it and after all was said and done, I wish I'd have watched Mike & Frank on American Pickers instead.

I do have to admit ... I got a little more insight into some of the others (besides Trump) ... but nobody stands out as a front-runner yet.

[Captain]

Man I've been covered at work and the farm, and trying to get a little hunting in. We actually had a little cool snap in the mornings that have made things nice. Now if only we could get some rain, I'd put in some food plots.
The debates at this point offer me no interest....
If elections were held today I'd vote for Trump just because ANYTHING would be better than Billary......

[Fido]

Got my food plots in last wednesday, got 5/8ths inch of rain that evening and another inch saturday. Seems like every seed germinated and is looking beeeeeeutiful which is a lot better than last year when it stayed dry for a long time. Was most disappointed in my governor's response too the Iran situation when he said he would wait too see how things were developing before he would take action.

[Chicken Dinner]

I watched until about 10pm. If the primary tomorrow, I'd be checking the Fiorina box. Trump mostly came across as a pompous blow hard with no specifics on how he would accomplish anything. What was up with Cruz and the way he kept saying "Khomeini" and looking creepily at the camera? It's even funnier than Bush I and "Saddam". Bush III just seemed too vanilla. I thought Rubio, Christie and Kasich did well enough for me to want to learn more.

[LJ3]

I think the clock is officially ticking down on Trump now. Someone woke Jeb up, apparently.

When I watch something like this my mind wanders to the coaching and practice sessions with their respective handlers that occurred before the debate.

"No Jeb, more awake... give me wider open eyes... now point your finger!"
"Cruz, look for the blinking light on the cameras, look in to that one and give me 'the look'...No, not that look, yeah that one!"
"Donald, stop doing that with your lips for fucks sake!"

[No-till Boss]

If the primary tomorrow, I'd be checking the Fiorina box. .

She laid off 30k workers when she ran HP into the ground and collected 21 million dollar severence package . Do the U.S. and favor and tear up your voting card .

[Chicken Dinner]

How's that compare with Trump's multiple bankruptcies? I will say that my opinion is based solely on debate performance. Obviously, the primary is not tomorrow and a lot more will go into my decision than how anyone did in a debate.

[No-till Boss]

You do know that Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy don't you ?

[Chicken Dinner]

Yes, but he's been close and he's certainly lost a lot of other people's money through at least four corporate bankruptcies. Neither Fiorina nor any of the other candidates have declared personal bankruptcy either. What's your point?

[Captain]

You know if the election was today I'd HAVE to vote for Trump if he was against Hillary, that said I will also say I cannot STAND the way he looks like a spoiled kid and has a sour look on his face. He just looks (to me) like HE thinks "I said it so it should not be questioned" I DO like the fact he is wealthy and secure enough to say what he wants, and to hell with the cookie cutter politician answer. I just wish he would say it in a less condensing way...

[DeputyDog]

Are you talking about Trump or the current President?

[Captain]

Are you talking about Trump or the current President?

Good point

[Chicken Dinner]

I DO like the fact he is wealthy and secure enough to say what he wants, and to hell with the cookie cutter politician answer. I just wish he would say it in a less condensing way...

Agreed. I also just wish he had something to say. His lack of any kind of any specific policy details was totally exposed last night.

[Arty]

Agreed. I also just wish he had something to say. His lack of any kind of any specific policy details was totally exposed last night.

Agree with you there. Nearly Every question that was raised to him, he basically ignored and took a personal shot at one of the other candidates.

His opening remarks about Rand Paul was quite a start to the debate.

I'll vote for him against Hillary. But I won't be all that happy about it

[Thumper]

Here's my take on Trump. I can't even imagine him in the White House and I agree, whenever he's asked for details on HOW he's going to do something, he dances around the issue and never really gives an answer. Or he says he's working on a plan right now and will be releasing the details in (fill in number of days here). When asked things like how he'd handle someone like Putin ... his answer is, "Putin would LOVE me, I think we'd get along great ... he'd LOVE me!" WTF?? Yeah, that should work! He's a pompous ass in a BIG way, but people go crazy over him because he's a circus show and will say what they've been THINKING and would LOVE to say, but haven't the balls to do so. I can "think" Fiorina has a mule face, but I'd never in a million years say it out loud ... at least not in a public arena or to her face. Trump will do it at the drop of a hat (and DID!). Some people respect that, but it's just not the way civilized humans act for the most part. We may THINK it, but we keep it to ourselves out of common decency and general good manners. Right or wrong ... I'm not really sure. I suppose that could be considered "political correctness" in a way. And people are sick and tired of "political correctness".

That said, the only thing in the back of my mind is this. I picture Trump as an ass who will always demand things be done HIS way ... much like a spoiled little brat. BUT ... and this is a BIG but and something to consider ... who's running his multi-billion dollar empire while he's out campaigning? Obviously he knows how to put the right people in the right places AND has no problem delegating. In my own, personal career, I took a management course (one of many actually) and one of the main things I concentrated on was allowing myself to delegate. I always thought if I wanted it done right, I had to do it myself. It was VERY hard for me to learn to hire good, trusted employees and allow them to make decisions and carry out tasks that I felt only I could do correctly.

You can't expect the President to know everything and the best way to carry out certain tasks. He's not God and in a way, he's a figurehead. If Trump can hit the campaign trail and dedicate 100% of his time to the endeavor, all the while leaving his empire up to his management team to run, don't you think he'd be able to put together a good Cabinet and surround himself with professional advisers ... AND let THEM do their jobs? We haven't really WON a war since the WWII if you really think about it. Why? Because all of a sudden, politicians started controlling our wars from some plush office in Washington. The Generals and the men fighting always have one hand tied behind their backs. I KNOW ... I've been a part of that and actually LIVED it during 'Nam. I envision Trump letting his Generals run our wars and he'd be telling them he'd get them whatever they needed to get the job done ... if they ask for it ... he'll GET IT FOR THEM!

As for bankruptcies, he's never filed personal bankruptcy. He has used his brain and his business sense to bankrupt certain of his properties. Hey, how many thousands of people lost their homes and/or businesses when the economy tanked? He had casinos that were drying up on the vine. Who the hell could afford to go to Jersey and gamble when their own business was on the skids and they were fighting to keep a roof over their heads? He was smart enough to pull the plugs when they needed to be pulled, instead of dumping good money into a bottomless pit. There's nothing illegal about it and it's a business move used every day. Sometimes a business can't exist as it stands and needs to be restructured ... or plowed under. It's life, live with it. As a side note, I once worked for a multi-millionaire in Beverly Hills. I was sitting in his office one day and we were just discussing a future business venture. I made a comment about how it really took a set of balls to do what he was considering. He looked me square in the eye and told me he'd been bankrupt twice in his lifetime. He then told me he knew almost every millionaire in Beverly Hills (and he really did) and he couldn't name ONE who had not filed bankruptcy at least once in their lifetimes. He went on to explain a successful businessman has to take risks to get ahead ... it's many times a gamble and you just have to try to weigh the risks against the rewards. NOBODY can hit it 100% of the time and sometimes it bites you in the ass. BUT .... success is measured with how well you recover after picking yourself up off the ground and dusting yourself off. To be honest, the guy was a total asshole ... but I always respected and admired his "business sense".

I wish I had a crystal ball to look into the future. On one hand, I'd really like to see what that Trump nutbag could pull off. On the other hand, he scares me and is actually an embarrassment in a lot of ways. But NOTHING and NOBODY could be worse or more of an embarrassment than what we have right now.

[LJ3]

Delegate, dufus... delegate.

You are designatedly old

I agree with the thought that he knows business and is smart enough to get things done. I think much of his bravado is just the usual bluster he generated to "bring in to" a deal he had to make.

Still, unless we had an eject button to get his ass out of the office within 30 days, I'm not sure I want him anywhere near the oval office.

[Buckrub]

CD's opinion is........interesting. I'm not in love with Trump.......but the one thing I see others liking about him is his directness, and actual plans, not just platitudes. He is the only candidate.......maybe EVER........that says actual plans. For example:

Bush: "America needs to come together and work for a common purpose going forward".

So, Jeb...........what do I do? Specifically, what do you want ME to do about that? It's just b/s talk.

Trump: "We will build a wall X high and Y long from Point A to Point B, and secure out borders totally". Agree or not, this is a concrete proposal, with measurable objectives, and talks to an issue on the mind of every white american male, and tons of others!

I see a huge difference.

[Buckrub]

Delegate, dufus... delegate.

You are designatedly old

I agree with the thought that he knows business and is smart enough to get things done. I think much of his bravado is just the usual bluster he generated to "bring in to" a deal he had to make.

Still, unless we had an eject button to get his ass out of the office within 30 days, I'm not sure I want him anywhere near the oval office.

OK, you can have Hillary there, then.

The oval office is actually not the problem, but it's 99% of what we discuss. The problem is Congress. But we never talk about them.

[LJ3]

I would go with Trump over Hillary, definitely. Biden? Not sure sure I'd go for Trump.

[Buckrub]

Then we must part ways forever. Adios my dear friend. It is with sadness that I leave you.

[LJ3]

Uncle Joe is like a drunk uncle. You never know what will spew forth from his ample pie hole! If we'd consider Trump in office, is your drunk uncle really that much of a departure?

[Hombre]

I can't say anything about Trump that hasn't already been said. He's refreshing that he speaks un-PC, but that's where it ends. Beyond his straight talk he doesn't seem to have any substance. It was a good way to start the race but we're at the point now the answers need to have details. His answers do not.

At this point I would probably vote for a Rubio / Carly ticket. I'm with CD on this where I thought Carly came across very well. The fact that she laid off 30K people really doesn't sway me. At least it doesn't sway me anymore than Trump laying people off and taking businesses through Bankruptcy.

[Buckrub]

Carly was a total incompetent boob at HP. I've seen her style at........um.........the company at which I was previously employed. I wouldn't vote for her if you paid me a dollar.

And boy, I need a dollar.

What they do in a "Group Interview" (that's what this is.........it is NOT a debate.......and it's almost meaningless)........is immaterial. Who I envision sitting in that chair, daily, and holding press conferences.........and working with Congress..........that's how I vote.

Leads me to Carson every time. His choice of running mate could really enhance him, too.

[Thumper]

Delegate, dufus... delegate.

You are designatedly old

Ha ha ha! You're totally correct. Every time I wrote that word, something kept telling me it was incorrect ... but for the life of me the proper word escaped me and I kept drawing a blank. A total senior moment!

Thanks ... I feel better now.

[Hombre]

I like Carson too. Rubio, Carley, Carson are all I'm watching.