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    Kelley Blue Book has spoken!

    Their best resale value list is out. Just sayin'.


    Best Mid-Size Pickup Truck:
    2016 Toyota Tacoma


    Despite new trucks joining this segment, the tried-and-true Toyota Tacoma once again is tops in resale value in the midsize pickup truck category. Not only that, but this year the Tacoma is the overall Best Resale Value Award winner, projected to retain a higher percentage of its original MSRP than every other vehicle on the market.

    The Tacoma has received several updates and changes for 2016, including a new engine that is both more powerful and gets better fuel economy, more convenience features in a completely redesigned interior, and even more off-road, towing and payload hauling capability. The bed is big enough to carry dirt bikes or a motorcycle or ATV, with a handy tie-down system that keeps everything in place. This added level of capability and refinement builds on what Tacoma owners already love about their trucks: toughness and reliability, a true go-anywhere design and the truck's ability to be pushed to the limits (and beyond).

    One of the biggest advantages of the 2016 Tacoma is its near-full-size-truck capability in a smaller, easier-to-park package. You can park a Tacoma in a garage, for example. It's also quite versatile, riding comfortably on city streets and freeways, but with available features like a 2-speed transfer case, electronically locking rear differential, Multi-terrain Select and Crawl Control, the Toyota Tacoma is well equipped for adventure after the paved roads end.

    There are plenty of options, too, between cabs, engines, transmissions, 2- or 4-wheel drive and bed lengths, with a starting price of just over $24,000. It's for these reasons the Toyota Tacoma continues to dominate midsize truck sales, as well as the 2016 Best Resale Value awards.


    Best Full-Size Pickup Truck:
    2016 Toyota Tundra


    The Toyota Tundra has topped the Best Resale Value Awards in the category where owners ask the absolute most of their vehicles: the full-size pickup truck segment. Here, buyers want their trucks to be ready for work and play, expecting that the trucks will offer a comfortable ride, tow around 10,000 pounds, shuttle family around, get acceptable fuel economy and serve as vacation director by getting the boat or RV to a favorite destination. The Toyota Tundra does all of this and more, while boasting very impressive projected resale values.

    The Tundra was recently updated with fresher styling, greater attention to detail in the cabin and new infotainment features. What's especially nice about the Tundra, though, is the breadth of cab and trim options. There are three cabs, including the ultra-roomy CrewMax, three bed lengths, 2- or 4-wheel drive and standard V8 power.

    The 4.6-liter V8 has plenty of power, but for those who want more oomph, buyers can step up to the 381-horsepower, 5.7-liter V8. There are six trim levels that can satisfy those who are looking for a work truck (SR), a midgrade truck with some upscale features (SR5 or Limited), more off-road performance (TRD Pro) and buyers who are looking for topline luxury (the Platinum or the designer-cowboy 1794 Edition).

    Pricing for the Tundra starts at just over $30,000, which is $3,000-$4,000 higher than the starting prices of its competition. However, at that price, the Tundra SR comes with the larger V8 engine, something that no other 1/2-ton truck maker can boast, plenty of useful standard equipment and the best resale value in the segment.
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    "Absolute most"......."Larger V8 engine"......"ready for work"......"4.6L"........"Max at 5.7L"........"Higher costs than the competition"..."Larger V8 that no other truck maker can boast"...........

    Well, congratulations there, Homer. That's great stuff there. You write that?
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    How the F do they know how well the 2016's will RE-SELL?? Didn't we JUST make the turn into, well, 2016???

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    Makes me sad. My new truck is a 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    Makes me sad. My new truck is a 2014.

    BKB
    Yep^.....My 2010 chevy is worth twice as much....Sucker!!!....

    Can I have my badge NOW!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arty View Post
    How the F do they know how well the 2016's will RE-SELL?? Didn't we JUST make the turn into, well, 2016???
    Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I just report the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arty View Post
    How the F do they know how well the 2016's will RE-SELL?? Didn't we JUST make the turn into, well, 2016???
    Can someone help this bumpkin understand that superior quality is directly related to used value on the market?

    Good thing he's not in the home financial industry.... oh no wait. Dang.
    If we all threw our problems in a pile, and you saw everyone else's problems-- you'd take yours back.

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    Go play with your pussy, snow boy!

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    The silly thing is, I was curious and went back every year to 2005 (if I remember correctly) and it was the same top two every year. Then I got tired of checking both categories (since I only drive Tacomas) and started checking "mid-size truck resale" only ... it came up Tacoma all the way back to 2009 when I finally gave up checking. Heck, who knows? It's not like KBB isn't highly respected (and used) in the industry. Seems hokey to me on one hand ... but the personal experience side of me has to agree with them.

    Bottom line is, it all boils down to personal preference ... (IF you don't mind throwing your hard earned money away that is)! Sorry, I couldn't help myself and HAD to continue . It's what I do.
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    If KBB wrote that Toyota AD, and that's what it is, an AD.......I'll eat my hat.

    Meanwhile, I'll wait on the Toyota competition to my Real Truck.

    AND, while I'm waiting, I'll laugh at y'all's funny attempts to justify your tiny penii and toy trucks.
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    Toyota is with out a doubt the best truck for them city boys that use a truck like a car. You ain't gonna find them around a farm doing real truck work or used by people that ACTUALLY use a truck.
    Them pretty boys like pretty trucks and have drunk that Toy koolaid
    A Government that pays people to do nothing destorys their willingness to do anything!

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    "Farm trucks"?? Ha! Wussie stuff! They had a Spec. Ops team on a mission in Afghanistan and the gov't told them whatever equipment they needed, anything ... all they had to do was ask. They requested Toyota Tacomas. The gov't purchased them from a dealer in California, outfitted them with winches, machine gun mounts and brush guards, then shipped 'em!







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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    "Farm trucks"?? Ha! Wussie stuff! They had a Spec. Ops team on a mission in Afghanistan and the gov't told them whatever equipment they needed, anything ... all they had to do was ask. They requested Toyota Tacomas. The gov't purchased them from a dealer in California, outfitted them with winches, machine gun mounts and brush guards, then shipped 'em!
    That's because the government can afford to by parts for them weak SOB's. Us poor farmers have to drive real truck that are tough and don't break down.
    A Government that pays people to do nothing destorys their willingness to do anything!

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    Them farm trucks is kind of like having a little dick. They're great around the farm, but they ain't worth a shit out on the road.

    BKB

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    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness" - Mark Twain

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    I love Chevy trucks but those weren't the awesomest of years for Chevy trucks in that picture.

    BKB

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    That's a farm truck.
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    There's 3 farm owners on here, and about 40 city boys.

    Now, who drives what, and why?

    You show up in one of those toy trucks in real farm country, you'll get shot at. Most bumper stickers say "Why buy their stuff? They won't buy our rice"............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    Toyota is with out a doubt the best truck for them city boys that use a truck like a car. You ain't gonna find them around a farm doing real truck work or used by people that ACTUALLY use a truck.
    Them pretty boys like pretty trucks and have drunk that Toy koolaid

    This^

    2015-chevrolet-silverado-3500hd-towing.jpg

    Whats up y'all Toyota Pussys.....

    Can a Toyota pull anything?.. a
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckrub View Post
    There's 3 farm owners on here, and about 40 city boys. Now, who drives what, and why?
    You mean those old redneck, "stuck in the 60's farmers" we have around here? The same reason OLD folks drive Buicks with foil AAA stickers on their bumpers. It takes the newer generation to realize things change over time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buckrub View Post
    You show up in one of those toy trucks in real farm country, you'll get shot at. Most bumper stickers say "Why buy their stuff? They won't buy our rice".....
    Ummm, last I checked, both the Tundra AND Tacoma are built in Texas ... TRUCK country!

    Remember, Japan is a comparatively small country and they don't have all that much real estate available for farming. And FWIW, I have a buddy in N. California who's a PREMIUM rice grower. 100% of Al's crop is purchased by Japan and, as per contract, he's not even allowed to sell ANY of it in the U.S.

    http://www.manta.com/c/mmfs0lt/lassaga-ranch


    Quote Originally Posted by airbud7 View Post
    .... Whats up y'all Toyota Pussys ..... Can a Toyota pull anything?
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha! A little ol' baby backhoe? Really?

    To answer your question, let me think ... the Space Shuttle comes to mind!

    Note for below: In a pre-test, they set this truck up with a 306,000 lb. test load ... no prob.


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    I wonder why Toyota has never gotten in to the heavy duty pickup market with a 3/4, 1 ton diesel SRW and/or DRW . There seems to be a pretty good demand for these trucks and the profit margin is huge. Seems like it would be a good move for them but maybe it is all about the demographics of Toyota buyers. They don't buy HD pickmeups.

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    Toyota has moved pretty slow and sure in the full size truck market lately. There's a 5.0 liter 300hp American made Cummins Diesel available in the 2016 Tundra. I haven't heard about their plans in the heavy duty market but I'd imagine the addition of a new engine line to support it would make sense. Word is, this diesel in the current Tundra gives it a leg up on the competition in that line. I wouldn't know, as I'm not up on the diesel lingo.
    Having owned Chevy trucks my entire drivng life, I can tell you this Tundra I have now is beefier, handles better off road, and is overall put together better than any Chevy I've owned. I've also towed a fairly big boat (20') and trailer many miles with both and there's no comparing how this one tows, this one is that much better. If it goes tits up tomorrow, then I might change my tune. But for now, I'd give the Tundra an A. My last Chevy lasted 14 goddamn good years of service, but it'd get a B+ compared to that A.

    BKB

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    bottom end torque^....Toyota got none.

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    In the half ton line, the Chevy and Toyota engine specs line up well.

    chevy 5.3l 355 hp, 383 ft lbs torque
    chevy 6.2l 420 hp 460 ft lbs torque
    toyota 5.7l 381 hp 405 ft lbs torque

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    Looks good on paper Barry .........I would Buy a Ford/ Dodge First!!!

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    Good for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    Good for you!

    BKB
    Never try and put a chevy truck down....You Gonna Lose Bro/...every time...

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    With HD pickups it's all about the engine and trans. To be competitive they will need a diesel with something like the new Powerstroke - 440hp and 860 ft/lbs coupled to a trans that can handle the power.

    I think the Tundra is getting close to the HD capability with their chassis but don't have the grunt to move it yet.

    My old GMC was 15 when I replaced it with the new Ford and was still a great truck. If GM had still offered a big block/Allison combo I might very well have bought it instead of the diesel. Only complaint was fuel burn. I do love this diesel, however. That power is addictive!

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    I pulled my boat to Canada one year with a buddy's Ford Superduty and its amazing. 70 by the end of the entrance ramp and not even a hint the boat was even back there.

    It did love its fuel too!
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