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    Bullshit, QA. Sorry for the tough retort but vaccinations and freedom are a false equivalency. We live in a society. Which calls for changes in behavior for the survival, not the ‘good’, of society. You aren’t free to piss in the city water supply. You are requiredto get rabies vaccinationsfor your pets. If this epidemic was smallpox there would be NO questions about vaccinations. Guess what? We had mandatory vaccinations with smallpox. And we had policethatrounded up theunvaxed and gave them shots involuntarily. In the US.
    I’m tired of arguing about the legitimacy of people of doubt the efficacy of vaccines in the first place. And yep there are plenty of doctors and nurses who refuse the shot. Remember that when you ask advice of a health care ‘professional’. They haven’t conered the market on smart either.

    This is about selfishness and a desire to appear smarter than everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryBobPosthole View Post
    If this epidemic was smallpox there would be NO questions about vaccinations....
    Yes, but those were traditional vaccines.... they actually prevented infection.

    I warned you that the numbers were turning. And they continue to do so. The latest from England's health system on the Delta variant:

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    Source data: https://assets.publishing.service.go..._-_week_36.pdf

    There are probably some explanations for this. They did not break out those who had previously had covid but had not gotten vaccinated for example. I am not a medical specialist. It is not for me to say. But the numbers are in stark contrast to what we saw only a few months ago. Sadly we have such shoddy data in the US that trying to get a time sensitive update (or an accurate one) on such a fast moving problem is probably impossible. But this in in keeping with the trends that have been evident over the past few months.

    I know patience is wearing thin. Mine too. I'm sick of the masks. Sick of the changes. Sick of the politicization. All of it. And this newest data tells me that it is way too early to let my temper flare up. And I'm sick of the new data too.

    Pandemic ----------> Endemic

    This is the change in mindset we have to make I think. It's here. It's not leaving. We have to start concentrating on how to treat sick people instead of wasting more time sitting around waiting on a magic bullet that may not show up. The labs should continue their work, no doubt about that. By all means keep looking for a way to beat Covid. But we have sick people in trouble right now and I think our effort on that end leaves a lot to be desired.

    We're making the same mistake we made in treating AIDS.

    Will

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